Has 20mph made our roads safer?

[life on mars]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

No .

Id like to know how many ederly have suffered ir fallen ill due to carers being caught in slow traffic and missing thier care slot . .

[Dembe]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

No .

Id like to know how many ederly have suffered ir fallen ill due to carers being caught in slow traffic and missing thier care slot . .

ill take a guess at "not many"

[life on mars]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

ill take a guess at "not many"

If you say so , if you slow roads ,you slow appointments.

Theres no proof it reduces accidents or pollution all it does it is slow down critically needed tasks .

Think the petition and WAG row back supports the fact it was a dreadful waste of money .

Perhaps more ambulances and crews would have been a better option to spend thier money on ,not some form of law change that could never be enforced and cost millions of tax payers money

God Wales is like a fecking retirement home .

Pathetic.

[Dembe]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

If you say so , if you slow roads ,you slow appointments.

Theres no proof it reduces accidents or pollution all it does it is slow down critically needed tasks .

Think the petition and WAG row back supports the fact it was a dreadful waste of money .

Perhaps more ambulances and crews would have been a better option to spend thier money on ,not some form of law change that could never be enforced and cost millions of tax payers money

God Wales is like a fecking retirement home .

Pathetic.

Ambulance waiting times are 10 hours because the paramedics that take people in have to stay with them until they are signed into the hospital. Until the hospital find room for them, or sign them over, they are the responsibility of the paramedic staff that take them in.
If you buy more ambulances and fund more paramedics you'll just have more ambulances sat outside A+E

Not sure what 30-20mph has to do with this.

As you were curious on the numbers, I had a guess, I don't think that many people died as a result of road speed changes, it's an utter guess as I have absolutely no idea.

[jeepster]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

No .

Id like to know how many ederly have suffered ir fallen ill due to carers being caught in slow traffic and missing thier care slot . .

More to do with the waiting lists than any other issue.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

that doesn't change the fact that every single place this has been introduced it has led to less people dying in horrible accidents

So, lets get it down to 10mph .
By your logic that has to be safer and better than 20mph?

[AfricanBluebird]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

I can see both sides of the argument but for the life of me can't see why anyone is getting particularly angry.

Was in Odisha, India, recently and built up areas in Bhubaneswar are 20KPM.

I am a driver, some of the road I drive on regularly have been 20 for a long time. Some of Pen-Y-Lan road now being 20 is the least of my worries as the local authority has decided to to completely mess up the turn onto Colchester Avenue - the right hand turn is so disconcerting for oncoming traffic it causes a lot of anxiety for drivers who don't often drive there.

Surely we will end with with a few roads reverting to 30 but built up areas where there are schools etc, remaining at 20, which I think is sensible.

But in these polarised days nuanced opinions are sadly becoming extinct. I feel I need to pick a side and defend it and get angry with anyone who disagrees with me. :hehe::hehe:

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

Has anyone changed their minds on this subject, now it’s been in for nine months?

Definitely not and I'm not just taking a side, it's utter nonsense how anyone can defend it is beyond me.

As it was 20 near schools double parked cars etc, not every road going.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

Surely we will end with with a few roads reverting to 30 but built up areas where there are schools etc, remaining at 20, which I think is sensible.

And I don't see anyone arguing to the contrary.

The biggest issue for me (at least) and one I see others repeating are those roads where 20mph is totally unnecessary.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

Definitely not and I'm not just taking a side, it's utter nonsense how anyone can defend it is beyond me.

As it was 20 near schools double parked cars etc, not every road going.

The road through Hopkinstown linking Pontypridd with the Rhondda is an arterial road. It was changed to 20mph then quickly changed back to 30mph, presumably as it's a busy link road and the only road from Ponty to the lower Rhondda valleys.

If that road is ok to drive at 30mph, can anyone tell me why other similar arterial roads should be 20 instead? It makes a mockery of the whole thing.

[Rjk]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

Definitely not and I'm not just taking a side, it's utter nonsense how anyone can defend it is beyond me.

As it was 20 near schools double parked cars etc, not every road going.

it isn't every road going, and it never has been

[Rjk]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

So, lets get it down to 10mph .
By your logic that has to be safer and better than 20mph?

no that's not my logic at all.

cities all over the world have made similar changes to speed limits in residential areas because it saves lives and has very little impact on most people.
the vast majority of people hardly drive on residential streets, maybe a short amount at either end of a journey. Changing this to 20 has a very small overall impact for the benefit it causes.

a change to 10mph is of course a much more drastic change and would be very noticeable, of course I wouldn't be for that

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

it isn't every road going, and it never has been

Yes it is blanket 30mph all changed to 20mph.

Talk of changing some back before the election but no action in NC.

[Rjk]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

Yes it is blanket 30mph all changed to 20mph.

Talk of changing some back before the election but no action in NC.

I drive on several roads that are 30mph every day

[poc]

Re: Has 20mph made our roads safer?

Yes it is blanket 30mph all changed to 20mph.

Talk of changing some back before the election but no action in NC.

no its not