Riza: Please resign

[goats]

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None of it matters. The clowns have given Riza the job, I hope he does well out of it. The clowns in charge deserve everything coming to them.

I’m sure we have all blagged our way into a job at some point in life? I did about 25 years ago, computer programming job, didn’t have a clue what I was doing, they were supposed to give me ‘training’ but did they eck so I managed blag them for a full year before the curtain came down….:xmashehe: did I give a monkeys?

[bluesp]

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Riza didn’t sign any of these players and is trying to make the most of the hand he’s been dealt. Some of the abuse I read about him is ridiculous, he’s ambitious and I don’t see anyone on here who wouldn’t take the opportunity he was given. Be confident and back yourself, what is wrong with that?

[NYCBlue]

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Riza didn’t sign any of these players and is trying to make the most of the hand he’s been dealt. Some of the abuse I read about him is ridiculous, he’s ambitious and I don’t see anyone on here who wouldn’t take the opportunity he was given. Be confident and back yourself, what is wrong with that?

This.

[the other bob wilson]

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Riza didn’t sign any of these players and is trying to make the most of the hand he’s been dealt. Some of the abuse I read about him is ridiculous, he’s ambitious and I don’t see anyone on here who wouldn’t take the opportunity he was given. Be confident and back yourself, what is wrong with that?

I was really surprised by the stick Riza got on here yesterday. There seems to be widespread recognition on local social media at least that the real problem is the ownership of the club and on national social media it’s often said that Cardiff ia tough job for any manager. Into that environment comes a very inexperienced manager with a threadbare coaching staff and an injury hit squad of players thats performance has been mediocre for all but a few weeks of the season - Riza would have to be a very promising manager indeed to make a success of the manager’s job under curcumstances like that. Yes, he’s made mistakes and, by all logic shouldn’t be in the job, but him leaving would not solve the underlying cause of our decline.

[goats]

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Riza didn’t sign any of these players and is trying to make the most of the hand he’s been dealt. Some of the abuse I read about him is ridiculous, he’s ambitious and I don’t see anyone on here who wouldn’t take the opportunity he was given. Be confident and back yourself, what is wrong with that?

It’s fine…when you do well….

[PontBlue]

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I was really surprised by the stick Riza got on here yesterday. There seems to be widespread recognition on local social media at least that the real problem is the ownership of the club and on national social media it’s often said that Cardiff ia tough job for any manager. Into that environment comes a very inexperienced manager with a threadbare coaching staff and an injury hit squad of players thats performance has been mediocre for all but a few weeks of the season - Riza would have to be a very promising manager indeed to make a success of the manager’s job under curcumstances like that. Yes, he’s made mistakes and, by all logic shouldn’t be in the job, but him leaving would not solve the underlying cause of our decline.

Riza hasn't been given the support in terms of back room staff to make a success of it. If someone from outside the club was appointed they'd agree backroom staff when negotiating and he certainly won't have football support from above. With Tan, the stubborn incompentent clown, only an experienced old school manager has any remote chance of succeeding here.

[Crisp White Lines]

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Ah well, cheer up. We could have forked out a fortune for someone as useless as Amorim.

[delmbox]

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And why should he? If I was him I'd rinse every penny I could out of the club.

Exactly, I've got no. issue with Riza. There was a sniff of a potentially life changing opportunity and he backed himself and went for it. It's the board's fault that he's not good enough, not him

[Divine Wright]

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They can't have been stupid enough to have given him a "normal" contract.

I'm guessing they could have given him a contract with a clause like -

If you aren't outside the relegation zone by 3 points come January , we can sack you to get a replacement without paying up....or maybe.... you'll be demoted to your previous position (as a coach) on the same salary as before

If they gave him that clause he'd probably sign it wouldn't he ?

That is what they should have gone with.

[Father Dougal]

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They can't have been stupid enough to have given him a "normal" contract.

I'm guessing they could have given him a contract with a clause like -

If you aren't outside the relegation zone by 3 points come January , we can sack you to get a replacement without paying up....or maybe.... you'll be demoted to your previous position (as a coach) on the same salary as before

If they gave him that clause he'd probably sign it wouldn't he ?

That is what they should have gone with.

He was begging for the job so much I reckon he'd have accepted it if they weren't actually going to pay him at all.

He's our kevin cullis.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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I was really surprised by the stick Riza got on here yesterday. There seems to be widespread recognition on local social media at least that the real problem is the ownership of the club and on national social media it’s often said that Cardiff ia tough job for any manager. Into that environment comes a very inexperienced manager with a threadbare coaching staff and an injury hit squad of players thats performance has been mediocre for all but a few weeks of the season - Riza would have to be a very promising manager indeed to make a success of the manager’s job under curcumstances like that. Yes, he’s made mistakes and, by all logic shouldn’t be in the job, but him leaving would not solve the underlying cause of our decline.

He's getting stick because people have deluded themselves into thinking a team that is playing Andy Rinomhota as a right wing back is drastically underperforming.

[Father Dougal]

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He's getting stick because people have deluded themselves into thinking a team that is playing Andy Rinomhota as a right wing back is drastically underperforming.

As hes the example you use hes aged 27 and has nearly 200 championship appearances. Never played at a lower level.

Im not saying hes a premier league player but his record suggests hes good enough to be a steady championship player.

And if your point is the position hes playing- whos picking him to play there then?

[the other bob wilson]

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He's getting stick because people have deluded themselves into thinking a team that is playing Andy Rinomhota as a right wing back is drastically underperforming.

We’re not in the position we’re in becauseRinomhota’s playing right back - if other players did their jobs as well as he has done at right back we’d be a few points better off. The main on field reason we’re where we are is that we’ve had a choice of Kanga, Meite and an injury hit Robinson to pick at centre forward for half a season.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Exactly, I've got no. issue with Riza. There was a sniff of a potentially life changing opportunity and he backed himself and went for it. It's the board's fault that he's not good enough, not him

This notion that Riza should somehow get a free pass is ridiculous in my opinion. He very publicly put himself forward for a job that he was in no way qualified to do and he was loudly singing his own praises while he was doing so. I said at the outset I firmly believed this guy should be nowhere near a management job in the Championship and I stand by that. His record of coaching at this level is extremely limited and it's not very good either. There was absolutely nothing in his background to suggest he was qualified to manage a Championship club at this stage of his career. Consequently, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that he's looking way out of his depth.

I've never applied for a job I knew I wasn't qualified to do. Omer Riza did just that. Some are applauding his confidence and ambition. To me, it looks more like delusion on his part. Of course the owner is ultimately responsible for this mess, but Riza certainly isn't blameless.

[Father Dougal]

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This notion that Riza should somehow get a free pass is ridiculous in my opinion. He very publicly put himself forward for a job that he was in no way qualified to do and he was loudly singing his own praises while he was doing so. I said at the outset I firmly believed this guy should be nowhere near a management job in the Championship and I stand by that. His record of coaching at this level is extremely limited and it's not very good either. There was absolutely nothing in his background to suggest he was qualified to manage a Championship club at this stage of his career. Consequently, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that he's looking way out of his depth.

I've never applied for a job I knew I wasn't qualified to do. Omer Riza did just that. Some are applauding his confidence and ambition. To me, it looks more like delusion on his part. Of course the owner is ultimately responsible for this mess, but Riza certainly isn't blameless.

Agree with this. Of course getting rid of riza wouldnt solve absolutely everything at the club. But its the question is it confidence and ambition to be applauded or delusion?

However i do think even those trying to defend him are actually being even more patronising of him. Nobody is saying hes good on his merits more a kind of hes so bad and so out of his depth its unfair for people to point that out.