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  • #46
    Re: Riza: Please resign

    Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Precisely my point, old fruit.
    Same as last season, and the season before that! Signing Chambers to a 3 year deal and then spending 6m on 2 centre halves when we've failed to hit a barn door with a banjo in 3 seasons is extremely curious to say the least!

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    • #47
      Re: Riza: Please resign

      Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
      Same as last season, and the season before that! Signing Chambers to a 3 year deal and then spending 6m on 2 centre halves when we've failed to hit a barn door with a banjo in 3 seasons is extremely curious to say the least!
      It's all a bit like antithesis to football. Shedloads of anonymous journeymen serving up uninteresting and unimaginitive fodder.

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      • #48
        Re: Riza: Please resign

        It also doesn’t help that the press seem to back these dead horses and urge them to be appointed. It’s happened twice this year. No doubt Tan is hearing reports from the 2 clowns that it would be popular with fans.

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        • #49
          Re: Riza: Please resign

          Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
          It also doesn’t help that the press seem to back these dead horses and urge them to be appointed. It’s happened twice this year. No doubt Tan is hearing reports from the 2 clowns that it would be popular with fans.
          He's here because he's cheap. Barley said so in the FAB meeting, that's the only reason. Tan got burnt by Mackay, Bulut and Warnock and doesn't trust managers.

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          • #50
            Re: Riza: Please resign

            Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
            He's here because he's cheap. Barley said so in the FAB meeting, that's the only reason. Tan got burnt by Mackay, Bulut and Warnock and doesn't trust managers.
            He’s right, he doesn’t need anyone, he could do the job himself, it’s 90 minutes or so a couple of times a week.
            In fact he could go one better and become the new Player Manager, 10 of them to run around and then pass him the ball to score all the goals!!!

            Obviously he would wear number 8, or maybe they all would, it’s lucky for some

            Dalman can write the press reports to tell everyone how Vincent led us to victory and Ken can be the referee (tackling number 8 isn’t allowed)

            Tan can take the penalties and the keeper must sit on his hands and look down

            Guaranteed success, and we’ll have thousands of new customers queuing up for ST’s

            With such a visionary in charge it’s hard to see how we won’t win the World Cup, or whatever competition we enter

            I can’t see why this hasn’t been thought of before???

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            • #51
              Re: Riza: Please resign

              Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
              If he's done his badges, then I suppose he's "Qualified" to do the job, in the most puerile sense.
              Riza has his coaching badges no doubt, but the truth is that before arriving at City his first team experience at Championship level amounted to just two thirds of a season at Watford, who were terrible while he was coaching them. He was subsequently sacked along with the manager he was working under.

              He arrived at Cardiff during the summer as a so-called attacking coach. The team scored just one goal in their first six games, but instead of being shown the door he was promoted to manager.

              To say he's fortunate to find himself in his current position is something of an understatement.

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              • #52
                Re: Riza: Please resign

                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                Riza has his coaching badges no doubt, but the truth is that before arriving at City his first team experience at Championship level amounted to just two thirds of a season at Watford, who were terrible while he was coaching them. He was subsequently sacked along with the manager he was working under.

                He arrived at Cardiff during the summer as a so-called attacking coach. The team scored just one goal in their first six games, but instead of being shown the door he was promoted to manager.

                To say he's fortunate to find himself in his current position is something of an understatement.
                Being critical of him personally for the first six games and saying he should have also been shown the door at the same time as Bulut is incredibly harsh. You don’t know how much influence he had on the overall game plan whilst working under Bulut for such a short period. He was obviously a club appointment and not a personal one from Bulut so my guess is he had very little influence and sway with him. The scoring certainly improved when he took over initially but when your options are Robinson, who has never been truly prolific at this level, Kanga and Meite even Ange Postegoclu would have trouble getting a shed load of goals consistently out of this lot.

                I’m not saying he’s the man for the job, far from it, but you seem intent on beating him with some ridiculously harsh sticks.

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                • #53
                  Re: Riza: Please resign

                  Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                  Being critical of him personally for the first six games and saying he should have also been shown the door at the same time as Bulut is incredibly harsh. You don’t know how much influence he had on the overall game plan whilst working under Bulut for such a short period. He was obviously a club appointment and not a personal one from Bulut so my guess is he had very little influence and sway with him. The scoring certainly improved when he took over initially but when your options are Robinson, who has never been truly prolific at this level, Kanga and Meite even Ange Postegoclu would have trouble getting a shed load of goals consistently out of this lot.

                  I’m not saying he’s the man for the job, far from it, but you seem intent on beating him with some ridiculously harsh sticks.
                  I'm not suggesting Riza was solely responsible for the lack of goals in the opening six games and I didn't say he should have been shown the door at that stage. I merely pointed out that the 'attacking coach' was promoted to manager after a period in which the attack was woeful, which strikes me as farcical. But that's Cardiff City for you I guess.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Riza: Please resign

                    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post

                    He arrived at Cardiff during the summer as a so-called attacking coach. The team scored just one goal in their first six games, but instead of being shown the door he was promoted to manager.
                    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                    I'm not suggesting Riza was solely responsible for the lack of goals in the opening six games and I didn't say he should have been shown the door at that stage. I merely pointed out that the 'attacking coach' was promoted to manager after a period in which the attack was woeful, which strikes me as farcical. But that's Cardiff City for you I guess.

                    Oh instead of isnt should have :xmashehe:

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                    • #55
                      Re: Riza: Please resign

                      Originally posted by blue matt View Post
                      Oh instead of isnt should have
                      That's right, Einstein. Well done. Keep working hard. You'll crack the English language eventually, at least to GCSE level.

                      :thumbup:

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                      • #56
                        Re: Riza: Please resign

                        Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                        That's right, Einstein. Well done. Keep working hard. You'll crack the English language eventually, at least to GCSE level.

                        :thumbup:
                        we can all read and know exactly what you meant, you can come up with all the embarrassing come backs you want, crack on :xmaswave:

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                        • #57
                          Re: Riza: Please resign

                          Originally posted by blue matt View Post
                          we can all read and know exactly what you meant, you can come up with all the embarrassing come backs you want, crack on
                          If I'd have been in the club's shoes, I wouldn't have sacked Riza after six games - I'd never have employed him in the first place.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Riza: Please resign

                            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                            If I'd have been in the club's shoes, I wouldn't have sacked Riza after six games - I'd never have employed him in the first place.
                            I wouldnt have either, but We dont call the shots at the club

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                            • #59
                              Re: Riza: Please resign

                              Originally posted by blue matt View Post
                              I wouldnt have either, but We dont call the shots at the club
                              Fair play, you're on the ball today...

                              My view is this: Bulut should never have been given a new contract and, therefore, Riza should never have been brought in as one of his coaches.

                              Once Bulut was sacked, all of his senior coaching staff should have gone with him (including Riza). A new manager with a proper pedigree should have been brought in and he should have been free to appoint his own coaching staff.

                              I hear what Hartley is saying about Riza being a club appointment rather than a Bulut appointment and he may be right about that. If he is, it further highlights what a farcical situation the club is in.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Riza: Please resign

                                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                                Riza has his coaching badges no doubt, but the truth is that before arriving at City his first team experience at Championship level amounted to just two thirds of a season at Watford, who were terrible while he was coaching them. He was subsequently sacked along with the manager he was working under.

                                He arrived at Cardiff during the summer as a so-called attacking coach. The team scored just one goal in their first six games, but instead of being shown the door he was promoted to manager.

                                To say he's fortunate to find himself in his current position is something of an understatement.
                                I tend to agree, I passed my driving licence at 17 and six weeks, so was technically qualified to drive, but I had a lot of on-the-job learning to do before I was the expert I am today, it took at least another week :hehe:

                                He's a nice bloke but a little out of his depth. Trying to get a floundering Championship team out of the relegation places with no natural leaders is not a first-time Manager's job. If we lose at Oxford he won't be Manager for long.

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