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    Taken from the trust email:

    EMILIANO SALA LEGAL CASE: THE LATEST

    Trust Chair Keith Morgan attended an online meeting today with the Cardiff City FC lawyer dealing with the case. The meeting was also attended by various members of the media, both local and national.

    This is Keith's report on that briefing.

    The court hearing will take place in the Nantes Commercial Court at 5pm local time on Monday, December 8th with an estimated hearing time of 2 to 3 hours.

    The hearing is open to the public so likely to be attended and reported on by the media.

    A French judge will give an initial summary of the matter based on all the documents submitted by both sides which he has fully reviewed. Then there will be the chance for lawyers on both to present their verbal case as to why he should rule in their favour.

    He has to consider two assertions. Firstly, liability. Is FC Nantes liable for the financial loss to Cardiff City FC caused by the actions of their agent Willie McKay and, secondly, what quantum of loss are they liable for the Cardiff City FC claim(It is for €120.2m)?

    The judge is unlikely to finally give his formal verdict until early Spring 2026.


    ..

    At least the end is in sight.

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    the whole thing from start to a finish in sight! is too tragic

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    • #3
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      If we get back the asking price, we'll be doing well. Can't see anyone awarding anything for what might have happened.

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by tforturton View Post
        If we get back the asking price, we'll be doing well. Can't see anyone awarding anything for what might have happened.
        I guess CCFC are asking for losses of future earnings if they had stayed up. That is a hard one to judge as we would have to prove on the balance of probabilities Sala would have made enough difference for us to avoid relegation.

        Obviously we have to win the case first before wondering about compensation.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by NinianKnight View Post
          I guess CCFC are asking for losses of future earnings if they had stayed up. That is a hard one to judge as we would have to prove on the balance of probabilities Sala would have made enough difference for us to avoid relegation.

          Obviously we have to win the case first before wondering about compensation.
          that's a lot of whataboutism tho. pure speculation from CcFc

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          • #6
            Re: Sala case

            Originally posted by NinianKnight View Post
            I guess CCFC are asking for losses of future earnings if they had stayed up. That is a hard one to judge as we would have to prove on the balance of probabilities Sala would have made enough difference for us to avoid relegation.

            Obviously we have to win the case first before wondering about compensation.
            The Trust have said in the past that the Cardiff City claim is for the value of the transfer fee (and associated costs) and for the loss of income resulting from Premier League relegation.

            As I understand it the numbers were produced by 'expert' forensic accountants but how they are able to estimate the probable impact of Emiliano Sala on the league table (in the first and maybe successive seasons) is a mystery to me.

            It must be based on 'balance of probability', and translating his record in other leagues to his likely impact for Cardiff in the Premier League, and looking at churning the data to provide a 'probable' ('possible') league table in which Sala made a full impact.

            It is educated guesswork - but those seem to be the rules.

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            • #7
              Re: Sala case

              Originally posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
              that's a lot of whataboutism tho. pure speculation from CcFc
              But a claim that can be made hence a judge considering it

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              • #8
                Re: Sala case

                Originally posted by Trigger View Post
                The court hearing will take place in the Nantes Commercial Court at 5pm local time on Monday, December 8th with an estimated hearing time of 2 to 3 hours.
                Is the judge a FC Nantes supporter?

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                  But a claim that can be made hence a judge considering it
                  how often do those claims go in your/our favour. just sayin'

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                  • #10
                    Re: Sala case

                    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                    Is the judge a FC Nantes supporter?
                    He's not a City supporter.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Sala case

                      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                      The Trust have said in the past that the Cardiff City claim is for the value of the transfer fee (and associated costs) and for the loss of income resulting from Premier League relegation.

                      As I understand it the numbers were produced by 'expert' forensic accountants but how they are able to estimate the probable impact of Emiliano Sala on the league table (in the first and maybe successive seasons) is a mystery to me.

                      It must be based on 'balance of probability', and translating his record in other leagues to his likely impact for Cardiff in the Premier League, and looking at churning the data to provide a 'probable' ('possible') league table in which Sala made a full impact.

                      It is educated guesswork - but those seem to be the rules.
                      It probably is within the rules to submit an 'expert' estimate. As it is a civil case it all comes down to the Judge and how he sees it.

                      Let's hope he is a Stade Rennais F.C. fan (apparently they don't like Nantes)
                      :hehe:

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                      • #12
                        Re: Sala case

                        Originally posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
                        that's a lot of whataboutism tho. pure speculation from CcFc
                        That generally is the case in Civil cases. Even divorces rely on what about's like the value of property and pensions etc.

                        It will come down to how much weight the Judge attaches to forensic accountants evidence

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                        • #13
                          Re: Sala case

                          Originally posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
                          that's a lot of whataboutism tho. pure speculation from CcFc
                          lot of speculation on here about the workings of the French legal system

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                          • #14
                            Re: Sala case

                            Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                            Is the judge a FC Nantes supporter?
                            The FC Nantes fans that I know just want Kita in jail…. asap.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Sala case

                              Originally posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
                              The FC Nantes fans that I know just want Kita in jail…. asap.
                              Amazing how well connected people are these days.

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