Have our home crowds been disappointing?

[NYCBlue]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

I think our home crowds have been disappointing for the most part. But nothing to be ashamed of. As for clubs like Bolton and Bradford obviously they have a smaller catchment area than us and are surrounded by more clubs that will bring greater traveling numbers. I think it's highly unlikely that our fans are more or less "fickle" in nature than those of any other club of similar status. It's probably more a factor of money and time. What is our Midweek:Saturday ratio of fans compared with Bolton and Bradford?

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

I think our home crowds have been disappointing for the most part. But nothing to be ashamed of. As for clubs like Bolton and Bradford obviously they have a smaller catchment area than us and are surrounded by more clubs that will bring greater traveling numbers. I think it's highly unlikely that our fans are more or less "fickle" in nature than those of any other club of similar status. It's probably more a factor of money and time. What is our Midweek:Saturday ratio of fans compared with Bolton and Bradford?

Not sure exactly what you mean with your question, but the highest and lowest League One attendances of three clubs concerned this season are as follows:

Bolton

Highest: 26,473 v Bradford (Sat)
Lowest: 18,820 v Burton (Tues)

Bradford

Highest: 24,075 v Huddersfield (Sat)
Lowest: 18,187 v Rotherham (Tues)

Cardiff

Highest: 27,280 v Lincoln (Sat)
Lowest: 15,814 v Burton (Tues)

As you can see, all of the highest attendances were on Saturdays, while all of the lowest were on Tuesdays, which is not surprising.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

You disappeared for days unable to face the mounting criticisms- having a better day are we son ?

I’m sure you had myself and multiple other users on the ignore list ( in the dusty bin ) or is it when it suits. Be consistent.

This is somewhat ironic.

Much to the disappointment of a small band of blowhards and sanctimonious superfans, I’ve never disappeared from this message board. Meanwhile, the username you’re using for this particular post disappeared from 2008 to 2026.

I see it didn’t take long for you return to your default positions of passive aggression and poor punctuation. The mask has slipped yet again. Therefore, you can pack up your beach towels and go back in the bin.

[goats]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

Not sure exactly what you mean with your question, but the highest and lowest League One attendances of three clubs concerned this season are as follows:

Bolton

Highest: 26,473 v Bradford (Sat)
Lowest: 18,820 v Burton (Tues)

Bradford

Highest: 24,075 v Huddersfield (Sat)
Lowest: 18,187 v Rotherham (Tues)

Cardiff

Highest: 27,280 v Lincoln (Sat)
Lowest: 15,814 v Burton (Tues)

As you can see, all of the highest attendances were on Saturdays, while all of the lowest were on Tuesdays, which is not surprising.

Interestingly, last time we were at this level in 2001 we played Wycombe and had a then whopping crowd of 17400 odd in the first day of the season. I think Sam had maybe just bought the club I can’t recall……people just weren’t bothered on Tuesday maybe decided to save it for Saturday who knows…..

[The Lone Gunman]

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Interestingly, last time we were at this level in 2001 we played Wycombe and had a then whopping crowd of 17400 odd in the first day of the season. I think Sam had maybe just bought the club I can’t recall……people just weren’t bothered on Tuesday maybe decided to save it for Saturday who knows…..

That was back in August 2001 (the start of the second season of Sam Hammam's reign). 25 years ago. Different era altogether (and a different stadium). Many members of the current fanbase weren't even born then. In truth, crowds from 2001 are about as relevant now as the club's crowds in the Fifties, Sixties or Seventies. Ancient history, although it doesn't seem that long ago to many of us old farts.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

That was back in August 2001 (the start of the second season of Sam Hammam's reign). 25 years ago. Different era altogether (and a different stadium). Many members of the current fanbase weren't even born then. In truth, crowds from 2001 are about as relevant now as the club's crowds in the Fifties, Sixties or Seventies. Ancient history, although it doesn't seem that long ago to many of us old farts.

Half of this messageboard were in their sixties

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

Not sure exactly what you mean with your question, but the highest and lowest League One attendances of three clubs concerned this season are as follows:

Bolton

Highest: 26,473 v Bradford (Sat)
Lowest: 18,820 v Burton (Tues)

Bradford

Highest: 24,075 v Huddersfield (Sat)
Lowest: 18,187 v Rotherham (Tues)

Cardiff

Highest: 27,280 v Lincoln (Sat)
Lowest: 15,814 v Burton (Tues)

As you can see, all of the highest attendances were on Saturdays, while all of the lowest were on Tuesdays, which is not surprising.

Lost a few potential glory fans with the defeat at home to Lincoln; they were looking forward to a super Champions finish, so we won't see them again for a while, if ever.

[Bluebird Karen]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

This is somewhat ironic.

Much to the disappointment of a small band of blowhards and sanctimonious superfans, I’ve never disappeared from this message board. Meanwhile, the username you’re using for this particular post disappeared from 2008 to 2026.

I see it didn’t take long for you return to your default positions of passive aggression and poor punctuation. The mask has slipped yet again. Therefore, you can pack up your beach towels and go back in the bin.

You say that’s ironic, but the same could easily be said of you.

If anyone tends to fall back on passive-aggressive behaviour and poor punctuation, it’s you. You consistently seem to irritate a number of people, yet you carry on regardless.

My gap in posting has nothing to do with anything you’re implying — it’s simply due to child support and family commitments.

As for your own posts, why do you present other people’s work as your own? If you’re going to reference data, it would help if you actually included links to the original sources rather than passing them off as your own material.

The fact that you have so many posters in the bin shows how immature you are.

[Hilts]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

I didn't go Tuesday.

Feeling like shit from man flu. Game on TV.

Would I have gone feeling the same for Saturday home v Lincoln. Probably.

[Hilts]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

In fact, it was a very impressive 27,280. However, last night’s game saw a big drop to just 16,663. I wonder if any other club at this level has had such a dramatic rise and fall in attendances in recent times? Possibly, but I doubt it.

The crowds for our last three games were:

18,028 v Wimbledon
27,280 v Lincoln (up by 9,252)
16,663 v Wycombe (down by 10,617)

It was another night on which our crowd was significantly lower than both Bradford’s and Bolton’s:

19,716 - Bradford v Mansfield
19,570 - Bolton v Doncaster
16,663 - Cardiff v Wycombe

The top three League One averages are now as follows:

21,497 - Bolton
20,501 - Bradford
19,376 - Cardiff

Yeah an incredible crowd. It was clear in the days running up to it that it was going to be big.

Bolton home is going to be interesting. Plus the 1st game we have to clinch promotion. (Unless we fall apart or course)

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

I didn't go Tuesday.

Feeling like shit from man flu. Game on TV.

Would I have gone feeling the same for Saturday home v Lincoln. Probably.

Season ticket holder, Hilts? If so, you'd have been counted anyway.

We were a few light on our minibus for various reasons, but they are all season ticket holders.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Have our home crowds been disappointing?

Yeah an incredible crowd. It was clear in the days running up to it that it was going to be big.

Bolton home is going to be interesting. Plus the 1st game we have to clinch promotion. (Unless we fall apart or course)

Maybe we'll clinch promotion at an away game. Reading or Huddersfield perhaps? But we'll have to wait and see (and we're not going to fall apart that badly - I hope).

[JamesWales]

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Season ticket holder, Hilts? If so, you'd have been counted anyway.

We were a few light on our minibus for various reasons, but they are all season ticket holders.

You highlight an important point, and one which makes comparing attendance data, particularly with previous decades tricky.

Crowd figures, despite their precise numbers were never an exact figure, we all know that. The odd person sneaking over the wall. The odd tenner not counted in the figures etc.

The figures given now are wildly different though. Generally all clubs sell far more season tickets than they used to and everyone is counted at every game. Clubs like West Ham, Celtic, Rangers, Spurs, even Arsenal in recent years will report sell outs when thousands of empty seats are plainly visible. Its one of those examples in life when all sides know it's a lie but just go along with it anyway.

I can see the argument - tickets sold is still valid data, especially financially but it's not attendance.

I have no idea what genuine attendance is. I suspect at most clubs the season average is perhaps 5-10% lower than quoted figures but no question in some games at some clubs it will be at least 25% less than what's stated.

You can get it through an FOI from the local police apparently, as from a safety perspective clubs have to report the real attendance, and people have done it before.

[The Lone Gunman]

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I'm pretty sure that declaring attendances to include season ticket holders who don't show up has been a thing for a long time now. I don't think it's a recent development.

This is purely speculation on my part, but I believe that there are a far higher percentage of season ticket holders at most clubs these days due to the disparity between season ticket prices and match day prices. I could be wrong, it's just a guess, but that's my impression.

[Hilts]

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Season ticket holder, Hilts? If so, you'd have been counted anyway.

We were a few light on our minibus for various reasons, but they are all season ticket holders.

I didn't renew 2 seasons ago. Was missing too many Saturday games.

I also wasn't enjoying it.

I regret it now as the football this season has been entertaining and I've enjoyed watching it and look forward to going.

My father and son both have season tickets. My son went my father didn't.