Immigration and The NHS

[surge]

Re: Immigration and The NHS

To elaborate on earlier tweet about how the NHS pay rise of 3% for nurses and other staff is being funded, the money will come from the existing health settlement. But that settlement assumed a much lower pay rise, so there will now have to be a negotiation BEFORE the…

spending review, or outside of it, to ensure that the award to nurses and other staff doesn’t impair vital health provision in the aftermath of the COVID crisis. Pretty extraordinary the funding of the pay rise hasn’t yet been agreed by
@RishiSunak and @sajidjavid

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1417903900607356930

It might have been offered but still needs to be further negotiated otherwise it will be a case of paying staff and cutting funding to health budget in general. Meanwhile,

The vast majority of public workers - including teachers, police, prison officers, soldiers etc - are getting a pay freeze next year (which is a real terms pay cut).

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/stat...06216479739908

[dembethewarrior]

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Of course you do, I know that you know several nurses etc that work in the health system that would happily do it for free

I believe you

Weird post.

My cousins missus worked in A+E used to inevitably moan now and again about weekend warriors but never once complained about her pay. They both earn a good wage and live comfortably.

Chances are every single person posting on here knows a ****ing nurse, hardly anything to have to sarcastically believe is it.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Weird post.

My cousins missus worked in A+E used to inevitably moan now and again about weekend warriors but never once complained about her pay. They both earn a good wage and live comfortably.

Chances are every single person posting on here knows a ****ing nurse, hardly anything to have to sarcastically believe is it.

Load of arse

[dembethewarrior]

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Load of arse

Anything that doesn't fit your fairytale world is.

You've read that NHS staff struggle, so now in your little world every single one across the board is living on food stamps and family handouts. Load of arse.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Anything that doesn't fit your fairytale world is.

You've read that NHS staff struggle, so now in your little world every single one across the board is living on food stamps and family handouts. Load of arse.

All the stories about nurses being totally fed up with the working conditions they face and the stress and the crap pay they get and them leaving the profession in droves must be made up then . Fairytale stuff .

If you think the NHS staff DONT struggle you seriously are a fecking twat

[LeningradCowboy]

Re: Immigration and The NHS

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57929185

Unions representing nurses in Wales say strike action is being considered in response to a 3% pay rise offer.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Immigration and The NHS

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57929185



Unions representing nurses in Wales say strike action is being considered in response to a 3% pay rise offer.

I saw that on the news, if the country and I mean the UK can afford a nuclear deterrent when its so obviously a waste of time during this time of crisis then it can afford to pay the nurses

[lisvaneblue]

Re: Immigration and The NHS

They know to have offered anything less wo

uld have been explosive

Although some people think they should be grateful of having a job and stop complaining

Which is ironic considering they possibly saved the lives of these people or their loved ones

That's how tories think

Vermin

Much of the correspondence on this subject seems to assume that this is the one pay rise people will get this year. In addition to the proposed 3% many working in the NHS get additional annual increments as they gain more experience and move through the job grades.

[Nobody's Rep]

Re: Immigration and The NHS

Much of the correspondence on this subject seems to assume that this is the one pay rise people will get this year. In addition to the proposed 3% many working in the NHS get additional annual increments as they gain more experience and move through the job grades.

Not all nurses have increments if they are at the top of their grade and you don't move through the grades unless you take on more responsibility or move disciplines - the increments are there to try and improve retention and the grades are there to recognise differences in roles and difference in expertise

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Immigration and The NHS

Much of the correspondence on this subject seems to assume that this is the one pay rise people will get this year. In addition to the proposed 3% many working in the NHS get additional annual increments as they gain more experience and move through the job grades.

That also happens in other occupations

I am amazed after so many lives have been saved by these people some still stick a monetarist value on the health profession.

Let's clap the nurses but complain if they hold out for a pay rise

Its fecking absurd

[lisvaneblue]

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Not all nurses have increments if they are at the top of their grade and you don't move through the grades unless you take on more responsibility or move disciplines - the increments are there to try and improve retention and the grades are there to recognise differences in roles and difference in expertise

I wasn't specifically talking about nurses. The NHS pay bands are published and can be viewed on the web, and you will see that annual increments are usually based on gaining experience, and as people gain experience of course they are likely to take on more responsibility.
That is the norm in most jobs whether NHS or not.
A nurse with less than 2 years experience is probably on band5..earns around £25K a year. An experience sister could be double that an d in London maybe £60k.
Doctors are on a different set of 'clinical' pay rates.
And please don't get me wrong, Im not saying the pay is good or bad, whether 3% is fair or not, I'm just stating facts..ie many get additional annual increments as they gain experience.

[dembethewarrior]

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All the stories about nurses being totally fed up with the working conditions they face and the stress and the crap pay they get and them leaving the profession in droves must be made up then . Fairytale stuff .

If you think the NHS staff DONT struggle you seriously are a fecking twat

Did I say any of what you just said I did? I didn't.

I said I know a few who don't moan about their pay. The papers may do for them, but they don't.

You've always been the same on here, scream and shout the loudest and repeat yourself a 100 times in a thread. A bore basically.

We all know your stance, don't remind us 15 times on 46 threads.

[Tuerto]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57929185

Unions representing nurses in Wales say strike action is being considered in response to a 3% pay rise offer.

Good, absolute joke of an offer.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Did I say any of what you just said I did? I didn't.

I said I know a few who don't moan about their pay. The papers may do for them, but they don't.

You've always been the same on here, scream and shout the loudest and repeat yourself a 100 times in a thread. A bore basically.

We all know your stance, don't remind us 15 times on 46 threads.

So you know a few

And of those few you know , none of them complain

OK then , if you expect me to think you are telling the truth then I am afraid that's not going to happen

You are making things up as you go along

[William Treseder]

Re: Immigration and The NHS

Whilst there is no denying the the brilliant part immigrants have played in the NHS, thousands of Brits have returned the favour by moving to poorer countries to do voluntary work, help with education, construction, health, poverty etc.