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  • #31
    Re: Frightening.

    It's definitely a thing, and if it's humans that are causing it, then I can't see anything happening quickly enough to make a difference. It's like shutting the stable door once the horse has bolted. Even if we stopped everything right now, things would stay as they are - ie. hotter, wetter, etc. And we're not likely to stop everything right now, so that means things will get worse. So we're going to have to look for ways of living with it.

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    • #32
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      Originally posted by Rjk View Post
      humans are having a big effect on the climate. you clearly haven't understood the science.

      and who do you think is to blame for all the cows?
      The farmers.

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      • #33
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        Originally posted by tforturton View Post
        It's definitely a thing, and if it's humans that are causing it, then I can't see anything happening quickly enough to make a difference. It's like shutting the stable door once the horse has bolted. Even if we stopped everything right now, things would stay as they are - ie. hotter, wetter, etc. And we're not likely to stop everything right now, so that means things will get worse. So we're going to have to look for ways of living with it.
        I’ve had numerous meetings with business partners over the last 14 months and some suggested that a a few COVID restrictions were brought in mainly for climate change …and will probably remain in place indefinitely.

        Most G20 governments have a zero carbon agenda. Will be interesting to seen where we are in five years time.

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
          "attributable to human-induced climate change."
          where is the PROOF for that as opposed to natural earth changes?
          #
          Co2 direct observations are a good starting point:

          GML conducts research on greenhouse gas and carbon cycle feedbacks, changes in aerosols, and surface radiation, and recovery of stratospheric ozone.


          Then read the IPPC report summary, August 9th 2021. It's up to date.

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
            The farmers.
            Human farmers or the other sort?

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            • #36
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              When it comes to technology, I've always thought the 'just in time' theory is a good one. When we really need something, the scientists/engineers will come up with something. We need a new non-polluting method of generating power, and we need it soon (especially here in the UK). We need a new non-polluting method of transportation, and we need it soon. At the moment, we're being sold electric cars as being the answer, when in reality, they are far from it - in fact, they're probably worse.
              Governments should be funding major research into these items. Clutching at straws like electric cars is just wasting time and money.

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              • #37
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                Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                humans are having a big effect on the climate. you clearly haven't understood the science.

                and who do you think is to blame for all the cows?
                Wynford’s shut

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                • #38
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                  Originally posted by tforturton View Post
                  It's definitely a thing, and if it's humans that are causing it, then I can't see anything happening quickly enough to make a difference. It's like shutting the stable door once the horse has bolted. Even if we stopped everything right now, things would stay as they are - ie. hotter, wetter, etc. And we're not likely to stop everything right now, so that means things will get worse. So we're going to have to look for ways of living with it.
                  ....and the poor and the meek shall inhabit the flood plains and low lying coastal areas. Which is already happening.
                  Climate change mitigation strategies are the only hope, for now. It might hit home when London floods big time during rush hour....combined with a North Sea storm surge which means the Thames Barrier left open would cause flooding. Closed...flood water back up and spills over into the underground.

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                  • #39
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                    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                    You said it was all bollox earlier in thread
                    That was regarding it being man made....
                    as for all the links....that is not proof...it it merely people suggesting it is man made......look at the temperatures over millennium to see how natural fluctuations happen.

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                    • #40
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                      An interesting graph:

                      temperature.jpg

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                      • #41
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                        Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
                        An interesting graph:

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                        how many billion people could the earth sustain during these earlier periods of warmth and cold?

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                        • #42
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                          I thought it was this

                          15K likes, 466 comments - russellbrand on August 8, 2021: "New video on whistleblower Daniel Hale who revealed that 90%of people killed by US drones are innocent bystanders, not intended targets.".


                          About the American whistle blower.

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                          • #43
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                            Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                            how many billion people could the earth sustain during these earlier periods of warmth and cold?

                            If it’s read with the context it shows just how bad it is:

                            Earth’s hottest periods occurred before humans existed. Those ancient climates would have been like nothing our species has ever seen.


                            Modern human civilization, with its permanent agriculture and settlements, has developed over just the past 10,000 years or so. The period has generally been one of low temperatures and relative global (if not regional) climate stability. Compared to most of Earth’s history, today is unusually cold; we now live in what geologists call an interglacial—a period between glaciations of an ice age. But as greenhouse-gas emissions warm Earth’s climate, it's possible our planet has seen its last glaciation for a long time.

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                            • #44
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                              Does anyone actually know when the most damage is or has been done? Was it 70/100 years ago in the industrial coal age or more recent time with air travel/cars etc? I get the impression that even if we did reduce all carbon emissions right now it would still take 30-50 years to get better and they don’t really know if it will get better anyway, how can they as it’s never been recorded before?
                              Still, time to build that barrage from cardiff to Bristol and keep the water out whilst running all our houses from it……

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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                                Human farmers or the other sort?
                                Farm bots.

                                ****ing farmville. Knww it would ruin the world. ****ing shite game.

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