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  • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

    Originally posted by Loramski View Post
    Siopis is urgent, to be fair. Whenever I've seen King he's been neat and tidy but I've wanted a bit more from him. After a couple of decent loans last season I was hoping to see him take charge and dominate the midfield but his normally sound technique let him down a bit and he even gave Rinomhota a run for his money for bad touches and missed passes. Not that the pair of them got overrun or anything, we were unusually solid that night and they gave good protection to a young back four but I felt it was an opportunity missed for King. I'm not going to generalise from that though, hopefully his time will come here.

    Here's his assist for Hugill from the Derby game a couple of years ago, good bit of play this. It comes at around 1.05 in these highlights.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=derb...XRCzDNZF8,st:0
    Fair enough, that was the first time i'm really taken a look at King. When i say urgency, i meant in a switched on kind of way, always wanting to get involved as opposed to the busy siopis. Yeah, King did make some mistakes, but maybe they were brought on by an over willingness to impress. I just liked his attitude. If i was a betting man though, i wouldn't put money on him getting much of an opportunity under Bulut.

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    • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
      Noah Williams was the only City player in the starting line up for Wales under 17s 5-0 win over Qatar today, none of our players starting for the under 18s in their game that kicks off at 5.

      https://dragonsoccer.co.uk/newsite/u17.php?id=974
      As can be seen by the link, the result of the Qatar game has been changed to a 2-1 loss for Wales.

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      • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

        Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
        Fair enough, that was the first time i'm really taken a look at King. When i say urgency, i meant in a switched on kind of way, always wanting to get involved as opposed to the busy siopis. Yeah, King did make some mistakes, but maybe they were brought on by an over willingness to impress. I just liked his attitude. If i was a betting man though, i wouldn't put money on him getting much of an opportunity under Bulut.
        Tuerto, you're right about King. He should be playing ahead of Siopis. Siopis is OK, but we are never going to be a good team with players like him in the starting line up. King may be, at the moment, no better than him but he has the potential to become a top player and worth a lot of money. He could become our Declan Rice.

        The counter argument is that he is better off doing his development elsewhere but that is valid only if his progress with us is being blocked by good players and we are playing well. Siopis, for one, is no better than Stevenage standard and we have been dire for approaching 12 months.

        I'm certain that the fluke against Southampton saved Bulut's job. But we should have been 5 down at half time and it took a big deflected goal from a subsequently discarded teenager to win the match.

        Whatever the rhetoric, we all know we are going nowhere until there is a change. And players like King, Ashford, Giles etc are of little interest to the current coach. At least the transfer committee has spent money wisely

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        • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

          Kpakio, Thomas and Davies started for Wales in today’s under18 game with Turkey, Jake Davies scored to reduce the deficit to 2-1 and it looks like they missed a chance to complete their recovery when they failed with a late penalty.

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          • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
            Kpakio, Thomas and Davies started for Wales in today’s under18 game with Turkey, Jake Davies scored to reduce the deficit to 2-1 and it looks like they missed a chance to complete their recovery when they failed with a late penalty.
            Kpakio's been getting some good reviews from people watching the games. Wonder if we may consider loaning him out in January to get him some senior football? Unless he's down as the backup here of course...

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            • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

              Originally posted by City123 View Post
              Kpakio's been getting some good reviews from people watching the games. Wonder if we may consider loaning him out in January to get him some senior football? Unless he's down as the backup here of course...
              We were safe relatively early last season, that was the time to blood our youngsters (I say youngsters, aren’t some of the ones we go on about in the early 20s? Which really isn’t that young in football terms). They could have got senior football with their own club with little pressure. Also Bulut would have got a massive ‘Get out of jail free’ card, perhaps even being praised for giving our lads a go. In fact when a couple were involved they were a breath of fresh air.

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              • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

                Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                We were safe relatively early last season, that was the time to blood our youngsters (I say youngsters, aren’t some of the ones we go on about in the early 20s? Which really isn’t that young in football terms). They could have got senior football with their own club with little pressure. Also Bulut would have got a massive ‘Get out of jail free’ card, perhaps even being praised for giving our lads a go. In fact when a couple were involved they were a breath of fresh air.
                Missed opportunity as ever

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                • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

                  Originally posted by City123 View Post
                  Missed opportunity as ever
                  It was, it was the ideal situation for any newish manager with a club, safe from relegation but fans getting restless with your style. Yet you’ve got nigh on half a season to win the crowd over with the introduction of the club’s own youngsters, something that most fans love, a team of their own. It would have been sink or swim with little repercussions should the plan fail.

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                  • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

                    Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                    It was, it was the ideal situation for any newish manager with a club, safe from relegation but fans getting restless with your style. Yet you’ve got nigh on half a season to win the crowd over with the introduction of the club’s own youngsters, something that most fans love, a team of their own. It would have been sink or swim with little repercussions should the plan fail.
                    Hey, to be fair to Bulut the youngsters might have done something really embarrassing like ship 5 at Rotherham or lose 4-1 at home to Boro

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                    • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

                      Originally posted by City123 View Post
                      Hey, to be fair to Bulut the youngsters might have done something really embarrassing like ship 5 at Rotherham or lose 4-1 at home to Boro

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                      • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

                        A 3-0 win for the u-19s today against Azerbaijan, Mafico and George started with Twose on the bench. (Also, Biancheri and Lewys Benjamin, started, Iwan Morgan scored).

                        The under-21s play Iceland tomorrow. Some coming and goings there but as far as i know Luey Giles, Joel Colwill, Tom Davies, Eli King and Cian Ashford are travelling. Charlie Crew too.

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                        • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

                          Originally posted by Loramski View Post
                          A 3-0 win for the u-19s today against Azerbaijan, Mafico and George started with Twose on the bench. (Also, Biancheri and Lewys Benjamin, started, Iwan Morgan scored).

                          The under-21s play Iceland tomorrow. Some coming and goings there but as far as i know Luey Giles, Joel Colwill, Tom Davies, Eli King and Cian Ashford are travelling. Charlie Crew too.
                          Iceland beat Denmark 4-2 on Thursday or Friday, it’s a really congested table currently with everyone in the group bar Lithuania fancying their chances of winning it.

                          The nine group winners and three best runners-up have booked spots alongside hosts Slovakia in next summer's finals while the six other second-placed sides go into November's play-offs.

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                          • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

                            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                            Iceland beat Denmark 4-2 on Thursday or Friday, it’s a really congested table currently with everyone in the group bar Lithuania fancying their chances of winning it.

                            https://www.uefa.com/under21/news/02...tate-of-play/#
                            Big game tomorrow, yes, Interesting that Crew has been recalled from the senior squad for it but not Colwill. Presumably that means Rubin will be involved at some point tonight. We'll soon see.

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                            • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

                              Originally posted by Loramski View Post
                              Big game tomorrow, yes, Interesting that Crew has been recalled from the senior squad for it but not Colwill. Presumably that means Rubin will be involved at some point tonight. We'll soon see.
                              Looking light on the ground up top without Colwill & Koumas. Harris & Pat Jones out as well

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                              • Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

                                King and Joel Colwill start for Wales Under 21s.

                                Three City players among the subs.

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