M25 Blocked in Both Directions

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

You are quite something.

Earlier on, you yourself wrote:

"FWIW I think these kinds of protests are doing more harm than good"

I think addressing climate change is critical and within that, properly insulating homes is a big win.

However, this won't help, as you acknowledged yourself an hour or so ago.

But now, because I object to people doing unreasonable protests I am somehow in support of the South African apartheid government?

Your logic is whack, but it doesn't seem like reason is your thing.

Irony alert.

[Doucas]

Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

What a load of borderline fascist nonsense.

It was nonsense because you made out that the 'boomer generation' (which precedes my parents out of interest) were somehow not environmentally friendly, when in practice they re-used products, were thriftier, ate more sustainably and holidayed more sustainably than future generations

It was borderline fascist, because, whilst you are presumably being light-hearted, you are willing the generation to die off and 'get out of the way'

The second level of nonsense kicks in when you assume that this means that something serious will happen about climate change, when in practice huge progress is happening now.

You insulting everyone who is old won't help climate change, it will just make people think you're a bit of a knob

You only have to go to Facebook or dailymail comments sections or look at voting patterns to say older generations being more environmentally conscious is complete horseshit. I mean how many believe climate change is actually man made? For more evidence on how you're wrong see https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...other-factors/

Huge progress isn't happening now, every year emissions go up, in practically every country in the world boomers are in charge.

I mean, the dialogue with boomers around climate change is pointless now, that generation has had its chance and has let down all generations that come after it. Nevermind the economic shitshow the boomers have handed my generation.

[JamesWales]

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You only have to go to Facebook or dailymail comments sections or look at voting patterns to say older generations being more environmentally conscious is complete horseshit. I mean how many believe climate change is actually man made? For more evidence on how you're wrong see https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...other-factors/

Huge progress isn't happening now, every year emissions go up, in practically every country in the world boomers are in charge.

I mean, the dialogue with boomers around climate change is pointless now, that generation has had its chance and has let down all generations that come after it. Nevermind the economic shitshow the boomers have handed my generation.

Emissions in the UK are falling, and at a faster rate than most countries. Thats my point, the protests are not targeting the key culprits here. Thats why it wont work. It will infuriate people and make no difference.

The Daily Mail online has a readership clearly unlike what you present

https://creative.dailymail.co.uk/us-advertising-opportunities/audience-research.html

Either way, you go around willing people to die, and you aren't gonna win them round. You'll just lose and get angrier and angrier with people without realising your line or arguing makes you your own worst enemy.

[JamesWales]

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Irony alert.

There is nothing ironic about opposing dangerous illegal protests because it disrupts peoples lives and makes their important cause less likely to succeed.

I just disagree with you. It's as simple as that. There's nothing ironic about it, and certainly you cannot garner from me thinking you are wrong, that somehow I support Nelson Mandela being imprisoned which is a frankly bizarre accusation you have repeated a couple of times.

[delmbox]

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How old are you out of interest JamesWales?

Sorry, this might have got lost in the thread, just wondering?

[lardy]

Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

Sorry, this might have got lost in the thread, just wondering?

Ooh guessing game.

I think 40-43.

[delmbox]

Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

Ooh guessing game.

I think 40-43.

I'd hope not, anyone in their 40's who says things like 'your logic is whack" needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

[JamesWales]

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I'd hope not, anyone in their 40's who says things like 'your logic is whack" needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

If i was a footballer, I would have retired a year or two ago. Probably with a slightly extended career in MLS.

I'm guessing 32 for you.

[life on mars]

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Here something the m25 could get their teeth into

https://www.wuft.org/nation-world/2021/06/28/a-coal-mining-monster-is-threatening-to-swallow-a-small-town-in-germany/

There is 250 years of coal left to mine in Germany , need some hard nose politician to close them and be hated for it ????????

[Rjk]

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I'd hope not, anyone in their 40's who says things like 'your logic is whack" needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

[delmbox]

Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

If i was a footballer, I would have retired a year or two ago. Probably with a slightly extended career in MLS.

I'm guessing 32 for you.

Your guessing is whack mate

[life on mars]

Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

Result .

Injunction issued against the M25 loops

[Bald Barry Bastad]

Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

Drivers should be free to give them a good kicking. They won't do it again, the drivers will feel a tonne better and police time won't be wasted. It's a win win in my books.

[stan butler]

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Drivers should be free to give them a good kicking. They won't do it again, the drivers will feel a tonne better and police time won't be wasted. It's a win win in my books.

Well said.

[az city]

Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

I presume a few on this thread think Emily Davison isn't a hero too. She was lambasted at the time.