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  • #91
    Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

    Originally posted by az city View Post
    You're drawing the incorrect inference from my post.

    Clearly at the time it wasn't universally regarded as just otherwise there would have been universal suffrage.

    You do realize the Earth is in danger? As in, all humans will go down with it too.
    No I do understand your point. I get what you are saying; "At some point in time illegal demonstrations that didn't appear just at the time were subsequently proved to be so". I get that, and I take your point and agree. But it's just theoretical. There's plenty of other illegal demonstrations that weren't just then and are still considered such.

    Either way, the key issue is democracy. Nearly Any protest was illegal in Communist states in the second half of the 20th century and and clearly many of those, in time, are now seen as just. However, that doesn't mean that in a democratic state in 2021 that every illegal protest that exists is just or will be seen as such in the future.

    The fact is that there are means to protest legally within our democratic structures and that's how people should do it. I simply don't believe what they are doing is just or fair.

    I also don't believe (and I say this as someone who has a lot of sympathy for the cause) that what they are doing will work. It will piss people off and turn them against them.

    XR are a bit kinda militant middle class lefty for my liking, but there's loads of things I would agree with them on, and things they could do such as educate on throwaway electrical products, educate on the unsustainability of the single market, educate on the global food trade, educate on China's role in this, educate on wearing jumpers when it's cold etc!!) but I just don't agree on this...sorry

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    • #92
      Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

      There was an interview with one of the group on GMTV a couple of days ago.

      Said theyd been trying to get their voices heard for 30 years. The 2 presenters just shouted him down throughout the interview. He ended up storming off. It was shocking interviewing by a mainstream TV show.

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      • #93
        Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

        Originally posted by Hilts View Post
        There was an interview with one of the group on GMTV a couple of days ago.

        Said theyd been trying to get their voices heard for 30 years. The 2 presenters just shouted him down throughout the interview. He ended up storming off. It was shocking interviewing by a mainstream TV show.
        The video of the interview is here:

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        • #94
          Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

          Will I get arrested by a 'policemanists' if I get out of my car and sit down on the M25 to say eat a sandwich , if I wasn't a protestor ?

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          • #95
            Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

            Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
            The video of the interview is here:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zpTIrx6uAA
            I saw that, they had no interest in listening to anything he was saying. Although surely Insulate Britain could have found someone in their ranks who'd had their house insulated to speak on their behalf he was like a lamb to the slaughter

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            • #96
              Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

              Originally posted by life on mars View Post
              Will I get arrested by a 'policemanists' if I get out of my car and sit down on the M25 to say eat a sandwich , if I wasn't a protestor ?
              Only one way to find out.

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              • #97
                Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

                Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                I saw that, they had no interest in listening to anything he was saying. Although surely Insulate Britain could have found someone in their ranks who'd had their house insulated to speak on their behalf he was like a lamb to the slaughter
                I genuinely think they put him up because he sounds working class.

                He was totally out of his depth, and as you allude, fell at the first hurdle.

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                • #98
                  Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

                  Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                  I genuinely think they put him up because he sounds working class.

                  He was totally out of his depth, and as you allude, fell at the first hurdle.
                  They could put up one of the vicar's as spokesperson as he also represents God's words as well as loft insulation , or that chap that's at every protest 🤔

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                  • #99
                    Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

                    Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                    The video of the interview is here:
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zpTIrx6uAA
                    If the term car crash television hadn’t been coined before, it would have been invented after that - nobody comes out of it with any credit.

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                    • Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      If the term car crash television hadn’t been coined before, it would have been invented after that - nobody comes out of it with any credit.
                      Agree. Putting someone up who doesnt appear to have insulation was crazy.

                      Madeley is trying to be Piers Morgan though shouting down people when they try to reply.

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                      • Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

                        Originally posted by Hilts View Post
                        Agree. Putting someone up who doesnt appear to have insulation was crazy.

                        Madeley is trying to be Piers Morgan though shouting down people when they try to reply.
                        Yeh bring Piers the real deal ,Madeley is a sap

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                        • Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

                          That Madley is a right dick.

                          Let the bloke speak ffs.

                          The woman was hardly a charmer either..

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                          • Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

                            I dont get how he said that Insulate Britain have been writing to the government for 30 years when theyve only existed for a few months?
                            They're part of Extinction Rebellion aswell which might explain their fondness for hugging tarmac.

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                            • Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

                              Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
                              I dont get how he said that Insulate Britain have been writing to the government for 30 years when theyve only existed for a few months?
                              They're part of Extinction Rebellion aswell which might explain their fondness for hugging tarmac.
                              I took that as people have been writing for 30 years, not the group.

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                              • Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

                                Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                                I genuinely think they put him up because he sounds working class.

                                He was totally out of his depth, and as you allude, fell at the first hurdle.
                                And yet he was on his feet for a bit longer than the interviewers - shocking stuff from them, but it got a result they welcomed I suppose.

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