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  • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

    Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
    My other comment is that much as I try I cannot see what Eli King is bringing to the team.
    Maybe it's a case of easy, slowly with him, but I don't see much.
    I thought he played very well last night. Kept it simple. But it was a more than acceptable League debut.

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    • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

      Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
      I think it’s staggering so many people are leaping to his defence. He’s done fine. We’re averaging 1.4 points a game. Before this run, he was averaging 1 point a game. He’s made mistakes and yet it’s always someone else’s fault.
      He's getting a lot more right than wrong. But some people can only focus on the negatives. I guess that's social media for you.

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      • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

        Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
        Expecting you to say something positive about the team, manager or style of play is basically like trying to polish a turd. If you cant see the difference between Mick McCarthys reign and the current situation then truly there is no hope for you.
        Steve Morison could take a shit in your mouth and youd claim it was delicious and ask for seconds.

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        • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

          Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
          Expecting you to say something positive about the team, manager or style of play is basically like trying to polish a turd. If you cant see the difference between Mick McCarthys reign and the current situation then truly there is no hope for you.
          Haven't you got anything more useful to do in life other than complain about other people's opinions? If you're not careful the men in white coats will be coming to take you away soon ffs.

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          • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
            Staggering? I think you’re exaggerating again.

            It’s been obvious from very early on (or at least it should have been) that Morison is a manager who is going to polarise opinion. The way he conducts himself with the media is unusual to say the least. Some will like his style, others will take exception to it. Surely you can see that?
            Ah the pedant speaks. How about this for a selection of words. You choose the one you like best: disappointing, worrying, sad, depressing, pathetic, frustrating, typical (of this board), ill-informed, bloody well wrong. (No doubt this is where is insert another word you decree is more reasonable.)

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            • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
              He keeps telling us he’s what he describes as a ‘black and white’ sort of a guy. I think that’s how it’ll be with the fan base. Some will love him because they believe he tells it how it is. Others will hate him because they think he’s a prick. Fun times ahead.
              I can't think of many managers that haven't done this to us i.e polarise the fan base but he maybe the quickest??

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              • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

                Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                Completely wrong midfield set up to accommodate a striker like Watters, he was pointing out that he wanted the ball played through on the deck. Ok he should have put that header away but his hooked shot that hit the ‘keeper wasn’t a bad effort. Morison’s initial team selection was decidedly iffy and can anyone, hand on heart, say they thought it was a convincing set up pre match? Not a nice way to substitute a young player, half time was less than ten minutes away. Morison could have bollocked Watters privately if he hadn’t carried out his instructions and diplomatically carried the can publicly for his initial team selection especially as he could bask in the ‘master stroke’ changes resulting in a 2-0 win.

                After our recent turnaround, Morison should be receiving 100% glowing reports from us, the fans, unfortunately through his own doing he’s dividing the fan base. Very sad.
                I agree with you mostly and feel he was a bit harsh, but I suppose he could argue we could have conceded in those last nine minutes in the first half and then lost the game, you have to make the change when you see it's wrong not wait until half time so as not to upset the player.

                Where I feel he was wrong was public criticism on Sky Sports, he could have said things weren't working as expected and we needed to make the change.

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                • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

                  Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                  I agree with you mostly and feel he was a bit harsh, but I suppose he could argue we could have conceded in those last nine minutes in the first half and then lost the game, you have to make the change when you see it's wrong not wait until half time so as not to upset the player.

                  Where I feel he was wrong was public criticism on Sky Sports, he could have said things weren't working as expected and we needed to make the change.
                  I agree what you suggest about the public criticism bit. For me it's as though he actually relishes it and it's done for Morison's benefit rather than anything else. I'm beginning to wonder if he has a psychopathic personality; it wouldn't be entirely surprising, many successful people do.

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                  • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

                    Originally posted by Garth Blue View Post
                    Ah the pedant speaks. How about this for a selection of words. You choose the one you like best: disappointing, worrying, sad, depressing, pathetic, frustrating, typical (of this board), ill-informed, bloody well wrong. (No doubt this is where is insert another word you decree is more reasonable.)
                    That’s a remarkable post. Truly staggering.

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                    • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

                      Originally posted by Nobody's Rep View Post
                      I can't think of many managers that haven't done this to us i.e polarise the fan base but he maybe the quickest??
                      He might be, but I think the situation’s a bit different with Morison. Generally, the polarisation tends to happen as a result of styles of play, tactics, team selections, results, etc. In Morison’s case it’s much more about his personality and his demeanour.

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                      • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

                        Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
                        I think it’s staggering so many people are leaping to his defence. He’s done fine. We’re averaging 1.4 points a game. Before this run, he was averaging 1 point a game. He’s made mistakes and yet it’s always someone else’s fault.
                        I think it's staggering that so many are lining up to put the boot into Morison. The team he picked and managed has just won 4 out of 5 league games, including probably the most crucial match we have played in a number of years, which incidentally produced a 4-0 win and the best performance this season.

                        Why talk about the points his team accrued before the present run and what relevance does it have ? He needed to recruit players because those he inherited weren't up to the job and all the signs are that he got it spot on.

                        Nobody could defend MM because his tactics were absurd and the results as bad as it could get. But Morison ? Yes I get it that he's not everybody's cup of tea but football is a results-based business and it looks like he has steered the club away from what could have been a potential relegation nightmare.

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                        • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

                          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                          He might be, but I think the situation’s a bit different with Morison. Generally, the polarisation tends to happen as a result of styles of play, tactics, team selections, results, etc. In Morison’s case it’s much more about his personality and his demeanour.
                          Maybe Dave Jones was personality first before results / style of play / transfers. Can't remember which came first for him?

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                          • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

                            Originally posted by OurManFlint II View Post
                            Danny Gabbidon on the Elis James Podcast some time back was very very clear that the rise of the youth to the 1st team was nothing to do with Steve Morrison.
                            Did he?!

                            I need to find that - are you able to expand on what Gabbs said?

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                            • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

                              It was glaringly obvious that front pairing wouldn't work. If he wanted to rest Hugill then Uche or Collins should have started with Davies, not Max. He was set up to fail in that system without any creativity in midfield to supplement his game. All Morison had to say after the game was that HE got it wrong, but instead he sold the young lad down the river.

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                              • Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

                                Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
                                I think it's staggering that so many are lining up to put the boot into Morison. The team he picked and managed has just won 4 out of 5 league games, including probably the most crucial match we have played in a number of years, which incidentally produced a 4-0 win and the best performance this season.

                                Why talk about the points his team accrued before the present run and what relevance does it have ? He needed to recruit players because those he inherited weren't up to the job and all the signs are that he got it spot on.

                                Nobody could defend MM because his tactics were absurd and the results as bad as it could get. But Morison ? Yes I get it that he's not everybody's cup of tea but football is a results-based business and it looks like he has steered the club away from what could have been a potential relegation nightmare.
                                Spot on

                                Pep Guardi-feckin-ola couldn't put a smile on some peoples' faces

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