Subs made a huge difference tonight

[J R Hartley]

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I don't like him has a person but he's doing a good job as our manager that's good enough for me.
You haven't liked him since he spoke out about Davies but Davies and Co have moved on

I didn’t like him before that and he’s said other things and done other things since the Davies interview which make me dislike him even more. I think he’s a first class prick.

I’m not DML. Just because someone represents Cardiff City I don’t have to blindly like and support everything they do.

[stan butler]

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He is doing a reasonable job but the way he is managing staff leaves a lot to be desired. Just because he wears our badge on his tracksuit doesn’t mean we have to adore him or agree on his every word.

Isaak seems to have taken it well and used it has a positive or am i wrong? It seems to me like he has..

[Cyclops]

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Fair enough, like i said, i didn't see the game so maybe i should've reserved judgement. Did Watters attempt to adapt, did he look like a player who thought that this is his lot, so he'd better make the best of it? I'm just trying to see this from Morisons perspective in order to make sense of it, if indeed there is any!

Re: the Watters substitution, the TV commentators at the time said that it was an "emotional" decision; that Morison 'threw his arms up in the air' when Watters failed to close down the keeper - this despite having a really clever turn and shot on goal shortly before he was hooked.

[J R Hartley]

Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

Fair enough, like i said, i didn't see the game so maybe i should've reserved judgement. Did Watters attempt to adapt, did he look like a player who thought that this is his lot, so he'd better make the best of it? I'm just trying to see this from Morisons perspective in order to make sense of it, if indeed there is any!

We didn’t press as a whole team in the first half hour, we were very passive, he was made a scapegoat because he didn’t run about like an Alex Revell or a Steve Morison.

The game was largely played in our half when he was on and when we did win it back we didn’t even attempt play through the lines we just smashed it aimlessly upfield to him and Davies. Because he’s not a Moore or a Hugill then it was coming straight back but is that really his fault? It’s ok saying he’s not good enough well the tactics were not good enough as far I’m concerned. Especially 1st half.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Subs made a huge difference tonight

Fair enough, like i said, i didn't see the game so maybe i should've reserved judgement. Did Watters attempt to adapt, did he look like a player who thought that this is his lot, so he'd better make the best of it? I'm just trying to see this from Morisons perspective in order to make sense of it, if indeed there is any!

He tried putting a square peg in a round hole then blamed the square peg for not fitting.

[J R Hartley]

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Isaak seems to have taken it well and used it has a positive or am i wrong? It seems to me like he has..

Or maybe Isaak is just a really good player determined to do his best for Cardiff which would have happened with or without being called a hinderance.

We will never know but this Morison is now vindicated is ridiculous as far as I’m concerned. Thats the first bad game, if you could call it that, the lad had for us.

[J R Hartley]

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He tried putting a square peg in a round hole then blamed the square peg for not fitting.

And ironically he declared there would be no more square pegs even though he played two last night. There is no way Eli King is a right attacking midfielder in a month of Sunday’s. Every time he had the ball he passed it backwards, he didn’t know what to do going forward.

[stan butler]

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I didn’t like him before that and he’s said other things and done other things since the Davies interview which make me dislike him even more. I think he’s a first class prick.

I’m not DML. Just because someone represents Cardiff City I don’t have to blindly like and support everything they do.

I understand some won't like him i've spent years with similar types to him so i'm probably a bit tolerant towards it and don't seem to notice it as much..

[stan butler]

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Or maybe Isaak is just a really good player determined to do his best for Cardiff which would have happened with or without being called a hinderance.

We will never know but this Morison is now vindicated is ridiculous as far as I’m concerned. Thats the first bad game, if you could call it that, the lad had for us.

Has you say we will never know but some will take what Morison said and crumble but others it will increase determination and drive them on..

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Has you say we will never know but some will take what Morison said and crumble but others it will increase determination and drive them on..

But that’s the bloody point. You can’t treat all people the same. If Morison makes some of our good players “crumble” then he’s having a negative effect on Cardiff City.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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And ironically he declared there would be no more square pegs even though he played two last night. There is no way Eli King is a right attacking midfielder in a month of Sunday’s. Every time he had the ball he passed it backwards, he didn’t know what to do going forward.

I’m not sure how King has leapfrogged Bowen… or Pack for that matter

[Tuerto]

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The general consensus seems to be that Morison was wrong in how he expected Watters to play, and given the service and tactics. That certainly seems the opinion of plenty of fair minded posters.

[stan butler]

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But that’s the bloody point. You can’t treat all people the same. If Morison makes some of our good players “crumble” then he’s having a negative effect on Cardiff City.

I agree with that. But what i'm saying is that seems to be the Morison way so some fans will be either moaning after every interview or will need to get used to it

[olderblue]

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The general consensus seems to be that Morison was wrong in how he expected Watters to play, and given the service and tactics. That certainly seems the opinion of plenty of fair minded posters.

I'd go along with that, although I still can't work out with Morison if he genuinely believes he is doing the right thing with he's actions and open criticism of the younger players, as he feels it will make them mentally stronger and therefore improve them?
Has he just washed his hands of the likes of Bacuna, Pack, Nelson, Vaulkes Collins etc as he feels most of them will be gone by the start of next season so it's not worth the effort?

Is he just out to put himself in the shop window as he isn't guaranteed to be here next season?

Or is he just someone who couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks or says as he is 100% right in his view?

There is a pattern of youngsters being held up and publicly ridiculed Davies, Bagan, Colwill and Watters etc

When in reality anyone can see that the problem has been with the established players that simply haven't performed this season.

I guess another win on Saturday and the doubters will start to be won over, although personally I don't think just because he has improved recent results that he should be the only candidate the board look at for next season!

[Tuerto]

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I'd go along with that, although I still can't work out with Morison if he genuinely believes he is doing the right thing with he's actions and open criticism of the younger players, as he feels it will make them mentally stronger and therefore improve them?
Has he just washed his hands of the likes of Bacuna, Pack, Nelson, Vaulkes Collins etc as he feels most of them will be gone by the start of next season so it's not worth the effort?

Is he just out to put himself in the shop window as he isn't guaranteed to be here next season?

Or is he just someone who couldn't give a toss what anyone else thinks or says as he is 100% right in his view?

There is a pattern of youngsters being held up and publicly ridiculed Davies, Bagan, Colwill and Watters etc

When in reality anyone can see that the problem has been with the established players that simply haven't performed this season.

I guess another win on Saturday and the doubters will start to be won over, although personally I don't think just because he has improved recent results that he should be the only candidate the board look at for next season!

Agree with all of that. I really do think that Morison believes that he is doing the right thing when it comes to his open criticisms of certain players, he has to, surely? What kind of person would do that type of thing just for the hell of it?