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I’ve no problem with Morison being given another season - if you take a step back and think in terms of not being a City fan, you would think it was a sound decision if Morison had been in charge of, say, Hull City over the past few months. In recent weeks though I have become concerned at the type of football Morison’s Cardiff are playing - possession routinely in the thirties or even twenties, everyone behind the ball even at home, playing very much on the counter attack and way too familiar ball retention skills making a comeback.
Maybe it’s me getting older with the realisation that the number of seasons I’ve got left watching my team is a fraction of the number I’ve seen so far and that I want more from them for the hundreds of pounds I shell out on them every year, but I’ve had enough of the pragmatic anti football we’ve seen for the past ten years or more. I want to see some footballers in the City team = I want to see us play some football!
To be fair to Morison, you’ve got to give him the summer to build his team and he’s more lucky in that respect than previous bosses because he has a great opportunity to do so with what could be almost be a blank canvas in front of him. I must admit to concerns though about his treatment of footballers like Colwill and Bowen who would improve the skill levels of the match day squad - Colwill especially has almost disappeared from view since we signed Doyle and it’s as if the thinking is that we don’t need a Colwill type player now we’ve got Doyle, whereas it seems to me that we need two or three more Colwill type players in the squad even with Doyle - the balance between artists and artisans at Cardiff always seems to be skewed in favour of the latter (the former virtually disappeared from view under Warnock) and my suspicion, backed by a fair bit of evidence over the past few months is that Morison will offer more of the same.
Great line! I think your post has just described next season. It's going to end in tears. The club will be putting far more effort and money into the court cases. That's the only reason he's been given an extension. It's a clear indication we have no ambition anymore and will be in the same situation next season. All pretty miserable to be honest.
Morison's Neil Harris's understudy. They both have Millwall written through them like a stick of rock. That's their reference point. It's Morison's reference point. He doesn't know anything else except the school of hard knocks. The football is still rubbish and the minor improvements we have seen are there because our expectations and standards are now so low we describe Uche as a legend when his biggest skill is being able to master the Ayatollah.
Last night the football was sh*t. It was cold and wet. A pretty crappy player scored a goal. We won. The football was sh*t though and will be sh*t next season. If we're reliant on loans we're f*cked. It won't be a Cardiff City side, it'll be another bunch of mercenaries brought in. Morison won't be here this time next year. The task he's got is way too big for him. He's already lined up as the board's next sacrificial lamb.
Happy days eh? Why the doom? You may as well have thrown in a bit about upcoming nuclear war just to round it off….it’s not like managers were queuing up to take us on were they? What with so many clubs allegedly falling foul of ffp next season we should be ok anyway….
A one year deal and a blank canvas at least gives Morison the opportunity to make his claim on a longer contract and mould a team in his own way.
He's stopped the rot, next move the deadwood out and finally start to build for next year.
Playing style and tactics will be down to him and him alone.
We cant definitely predict how it will pan out, but an indication will surely be on the types of players he manages to recruit.
A couple of wingers who can beat a fb and deliver a cross would be a start in my view.
Let's be honest the football has improved but it was at a low starting point after watching mad Micks team selection.
Derby looked half decent on Tuesday night and most of their players looked comfortable with the ball, that would be a plus in my view
Morison has a unique opportunity and it will probably take 2-3 seasons before we can start thinking about promotion, but what I believe lots of fans want to see is a positive change away from the anti football that we have been served up for the last few years.
He wouldn't have been my first choice if I'm being honest but let's hope he proves he's up to the job
A one year deal and a blank canvas at least gives Morison the opportunity to make his claim on a longer contract and mould a team in his own way.
He's stopped the rot, next move the deadwood out and finally start to build for next year.
Playing style and tactics will be down to him and him alone.
We cant definitely predict how it will pan out, but an indication will surely be on the types of players he manages to recruit.
A couple of wingers who can beat a fb and deliver a cross would be a start in my view.
Let's be honest the football has improved but it was at a low starting point after watching mad Micks team selection.
Derby looked half decent on Tuesday night and most of their players looked comfortable with the ball, that would be a plus in my view
Morison has a unique opportunity and it will probably take 2-3 seasons before we can start thinking about promotion, but what I believe lots of fans want to see is a positive change away from the anti football that we have been served up for the last few years.
He wouldn't have been my first choice if I'm being honest but let's hope he proves he's up to the job
I think the Huddersfield and, to a lesser extent, QPR examples say it is possible for us to challenge fora top six place next season - always provided we get the few points we now need to ensure safety. I think most of the sides in the Championship are much of a muchness and things like the start you make, team spirit and having one or two important players in top form count for an awful lot.
Originally posted by the other bob wilsonView Post
I think the Huddersfield and, to a lesser extent, QPR examples say it is possible for us to challenge for a top six place next season - always provided we get the few points we now need to ensure safety.
Comparisons with Huddersfield, which I think Morison himself made, are interesting. Huddersfield finished 20th in Corberan's first season. If we're saying next season will effectively be Morison's first season in charge, do we think Tan and Co would be happy with such a lowly league position in 2022/23?
As for QPR, they finished last season strongly and ended up 9th. Many pundits viewed them as dark horses for promotion this season. Warburton took over there in May 2019. They finished 13th in his first season.
Comparisons with Huddersfield, which I think Morison himself made, are interesting. Huddersfield finished 20th in Corberan's first season. If we're saying next season will effectively be Morison's first season in charge, do we think Tan and Co would be happy with such a lowly league position in 2022/23?
As for QPR, they finished last season strongly and ended up 9th. Many pundits viewed them as dark horses for promotion this season. Warburton took over there in May 2019. They finished 13th in his first season.
Morison will have had close to three quarters of a season in charge come May, so I can’t see how 22/23 could be considered his first one. Perhaps a better example is Barnsley last season in the top six in Ishmael’s first season and looking like a relegation side this time. Coventry and Luton are other examples of sides to exceed expectations - the point is that the Championship is a more open league than many others and sides seldom have, or are allowed, the couple of seasons of rebuilding suggested in the post I replied to.
Comparisons with Huddersfield, which I think Morison himself made, are interesting. Huddersfield finished 20th in Corberan's first season. If we're saying next season will effectively be Morison's first season in charge, do we think Tan and Co would be happy with such a lowly league position in 2022/23?
As for QPR, they finished last season strongly and ended up 9th. Many pundits viewed them as dark horses for promotion this season. Warburton took over there in May 2019. They finished 13th in his first season.
if anyone is expecting us to waltz straight into the playoffs then I think they're going to be very much disappointed.
it is possible of course, but unlikely I'd say unless we get very lucky with signings and or the youth players start to take some massive strides. any club receiving parachute payments will immediately be able to blow us out of the water on any signing or wages so it's going to be tough.
as long as we are moving in the right direction, making investments in the squad that can improve in value and hopefully playing some decent football then I'll be happy.
if we are in a relegation battle all season then this isn't going to be a very happy place to visit, but it is entirely possible with the amount of change in the squad.
this season has been managed decline as we wean ourselves off the excesses of our poor premier League money spending. next season is what happens next, if it feels like we are building something then I think most fans will get on board, even if we don't achieve anything concrete in terms of a playoff place.
if we simply swap one relegation battle squad for another then the grumbling will soon start
Originally posted by the other bob wilsonView Post
Morison will have had close to three quarters of a season in charge come May, so I can’t see how 22/23 could be considered his first one.
I guess because the squad will undergo a significant overhaul during the summer and Morison will be the one shaping it, the perception from some is that next season will be his first proper season in charge. When any discussions over results, the playing style, etc, crop up at the moment, there are always those who excuse Morison from any responsibility given the situation (and the squad) he inherited.
It's funny. Things go well, his fans will tell you Morison is largely responsible. Things don't go so well, the same people will blame his predecessors. There rarely seems to be any balance in this regard. I'm with you, though. This team is his team now. It bears very little resemblance to the side McCarthy was fielding earlier in the season, so in my book it's Morison who is responsible for the current performances and style of play.
Something definitely changed for Morison after the Bristol City defeat. We had 52% possession against Preston, 66% against Blackburn and 52% against Bristol but Morison said after the last one it was his worst time on the touchline and that we'd been totally outfought and outbattled. We were four points off relegation and the match thread had comments saying we were nailed on for relegation and that Morison was weak and naive.
Hugill, Ikpeazu and Doughty were brought in and the game plan changed. Possession stats went down but results improved (a 4-0 win against Peterborough with 32% possession among them) and now we're 16 points clear of relegation but Morison is still a clown because we aren't playing teams off the park while we're doing it. If Warnock had come back in after the Bristol City game and got those results he'd probably be hailed as a saviour on here and there'd be widespread relief that we'd escaped the drop.
Of course it's a concern that Morison isn't able to get the side playing better football but he's bought himself some time to work on that as the season draws to an end and he's got the summer to plan for next season too. I've no idea if he'll be able to get the first team playing like he had the under-23s playing, no idea if he'll make a successful career out of being a manager or gone by Xmas either, but I don't understand all the vitriol being aimed at him. He hasn't been perfect but results have picked up and after ten years of Malky, Slade, Warnock, McCarthy and others I find it bizarre to see him getting slated like he is for the lack of good football, months into his first job as a manager. Each to their own though.
Hugill, Ikpeazu and Doughty were brought in and the game plan changed. Possession stats went down but results improved (a 4-0 win against Peterborough with 32% possession among them) and now we're 16 points clear of relegation but Morison is still a clown because we aren't playing teams off the park while we're doing it.
Has anyone called Morison a clown? I haven't seen or heard that anywhere.
Waiting would have been a mistake, even if there are reservations about Morison.
Given we are losing so many players and loanees in the summer there is no way we could have waited.
The rebuilding has to start now.. deciding which players to negotiate new contracts with, who leaves and who to start targeting new players.
We need them in pretty quickly so they can have a good preseason.
True we have a lot of decisions to be made for next season, we needed to appoint a Manager now, he has done very well in the transfer window and bringing in and establishing young players.
Something definitely changed for Morison after the Bristol City defeat. We had 52% possession against Preston, 66% against Blackburn and 52% against Bristol but Morison said after the last one it was his worst time on the touchline and that we'd been totally outfought and outbattled. We were four points off relegation and the match thread had comments saying we were nailed on for relegation and that Morison was weak and naive.
Hugill, Ikpeazu and Doughty were brought in and the game plan changed. Possession stats went down but results improved (a 4-0 win against Peterborough with 32% possession among them) and now we're 16 points clear of relegation but Morison is still a clown because we aren't playing teams off the park while we're doing it. If Warnock had come back in after the Bristol City game and got those results he'd probably be hailed as a saviour on here and there'd be widespread relief that we'd escaped the drop.
Of course it's a concern that Morison isn't able to get the side playing better football but he's bought himself some time to work on that as the season draws to an end and he's got the summer to plan for next season too. I've no idea if he'll be able to get the first team playing like he had the under-23s playing, no idea if he'll make a successful career out of being a manager or gone by Xmas either, but I don't understand all the vitriol being aimed at him. He hasn't been perfect but results have picked up and after ten years of Malky, Slade, Warnock, McCarthy and others I find it bizarre to see him getting slated like he is for the lack of good football, months into his first job as a manager. Each to their own though.
The other managers and fans haven't told us how good the football is. It isn't good yet Morison, a lot of fans and the media keep trying to tell us it is.
The other managers and fans haven't told us how good the football is. It isn't good yet Morison, a lot of fans and the media keep trying to tell us it is.
The media one gets to me more than anything. They should at least be able to see he's stark bollock naked.
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