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  • Re: This Eu vaccine row

    Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    I agree. Just a couple pf months ago they were warning us that our approval process was too quick and not robust. Best to take time with a comprehensive evaluation process even if to takes more time they said.
    Their attitude now changed with time of the essence and they won't tolerate any sort of delay in supply.
    It appears that they never even spoke to The Irish Government before acting.

    😳

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      Northern Ireland First Minister Arlene Foster describes the move as "an incredible act of hostility".


      Sky News are reporting that the EU are about to announce they have backed down from using Article 16 of the Northern Ireland Protocol. What this means in practice remains a mystery.

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        This thread seems to be a little quieter this evening.

        Strange that, considering the monumental bombshell dropped earlier and the subsequent backpedaling.

        Has to be worthy of a comment or three in a thread that was popping last night.

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          What the EU was quoted as saying in the news item as to their reason for overiding the Irish Protocol by taking the powers to stop Vaccines poing th Northern Ireland

          "This is justified as a safeguard measure pursuant to Article 16 of that Protocol in order to avert serious societal difficulties due to a lack of supply threatening to disturb the orderly implementation of the vaccination campaigns in the Member States."

          What they actually meant was

          "We messed up our vaccine supply and we are now trying to blame anyone else we can particularly the UK"

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            Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
            What the EU was quoted as saying in the news item as to their reason for overiding the Irish Protocol by taking the powers to stop Vaccines poing th Northern Ireland

            "This is justified as a safeguard measure pursuant to Article 16 of that Protocol in order to avert serious societal difficulties due to a lack of supply threatening to disturb the orderly implementation of the vaccination campaigns in the Member States."

            What they actually meant was

            "We messed up our vaccine supply and we are now trying to blame anyone else we can particularly the UK"
            Succinctly put.
            Any counters to this?
            Bueller...Bueller...

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              Clocks must have gone forward.
              No doubt there will be plenty of bright, eager “FBPE” warriors happy to slay “The Gammon” in the morning.

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                Europe has retreated on article 16 after a massive backlash .

                God they really have embarrassed themselves.

                Sadly Macron the ( poor loser ) is still dissing our vaccine , he's starting to sound like a European Trump anti-vaxxer .

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                  Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                  Europe has retreated on article 16 after a massive backlash .

                  God they really have embarrassed themselves.

                  Sadly Macron the ( poor loser ) is still dissing our vaccine , he's starting to sound like a European Trump anti-vaxxer .
                  Sorry for being pedantic, but it is important to distinct between Europe and The EU.

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                    Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                    Really? Most remainers I know, including myself, have just kept on demonstrating what a steaming pile of shit Brexit is and how it is negatively affecting people and their livelihoods, as predicted.
                    What a load of bollox. It was, and still is, a corrupt organisation. They are already showing their true colours over this vaccine situation.
                    Take of your “we are doomed sandwich board” and give it a rest.

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                      well we have left Europe now , people got what they wanted

                      So whinge all you want about how nasty they are , too late now , nothing to do with me , I voted to stay

                      If Britain was in Europe and strong then .....

                      But there you go

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                        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                        well we have left Europe now , people got what they wanted

                        So whinge all you want about how nasty they are , too late now , nothing to do with me , I voted to stay

                        If Britain was in Europe and strong then .....

                        But there you go
                        We wouldn’t have the vaccines we have now.

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                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          well we have left Europe now , people got what they wanted

                          So whinge all you want about how nasty they are , too late now , nothing to do with me , I voted to stay

                          If Britain was in Europe and strong then .....

                          But there you go
                          It sounds selfish but Europe was supposed to be purely a self preservation body.

                          The benefits have ebbed away and is now more about giving than taking for certain members.

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                            The argument all along was .....its better to be in this huge market , right on our doorstep and saying we are a major economy , this is the score , than outside letting the fat cats rule

                            Well you voted out

                            Too late now

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                              Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                              It sounds selfish but Europe was supposed to be purely a self preservation body.

                              The benefits have ebbed away and is now more about giving than taking for certain members.
                              well the flaws with the EU were obvious and things needed to change

                              But we have left now

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                                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                                well the flaws with the EU were obvious and things needed to change

                                But we have left now
                                Hand on heart do you honestly believe that the UK had any clout when we were in the EU ?

                                If you remember Cameron sought to get concessions from the EU whilst we were in the organisation. It was widely reported that his efforts failed miserably and he was then surprised that the referendum result didn't go the way he was expecting.

                                In or out we were never strong enough to influence the way the EU was being run.

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