Colwll and Davies

[Rjk]

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I think there's a phenomenon in football,which I would describe as the 'Churn Principle'.
We demand that inconsistent and poor performances should result in certain players losing their place in the team - only for us to call for them to be reinstated when results continue to be poor and after a period of time has taken the edge off the bad memories they inflicted upon us in the first place.
To this end, certain players will fluctuate between being in the team, being subsequently dropped and the cycle repeating itself.

I guess that's the same with a lot of sports - although I know that a few years ago there was a conscious effort to move away from that with the England cricket team - players were encouraged to play their natural games and express themselves and would be allowed to fail (at least for a while) without being dumped our of the team before they found their feet.
I'm not sure if they still use that approach, or if it was considered to be successful

[blue matt]

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We are crying out for a No10 and everything points towards Colwll, what baffles me is that he is good enough to play for Wales ( and will continue to ) yet cant get in our side , its baffling

[poc]

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We are crying out for a No10 and everything points towards Colwll, what baffles me is that he is good enough to play for Wales ( and will continue to ) yet cant get in our side , its baffling

its a strange one :sherlock:

[North Cardiff Blue]

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its a strange one :sherlock:

He seems to have the ability, I think it must just come down to work ethic for the team and fitness that stops Managers from picking him week in week out.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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I think there's a phenomenon in football,which I would describe as the 'Churn Principle'.
We demand that inconsistent and poor performances should result in certain players losing their place in the team - only for us to call for them to be reinstated when results continue to be poor and after a period of time has taken the edge off the bad memories they inflicted upon us in the first place.
To this end, certain players will fluctuate between being in the team, being subsequently dropped and the cycle repeating itself.

Sometimes players look poor because of those around them. Conversely sometimes players look good because of those around them.

[City123]

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Yeah, Colwill had his chance on Saturday and didn’t do a thing - if he was as good as some say heis, he would have won the game for us in those those five or six minutes he was on the pitch.

Other clubs play proper number tens, but not Cardiff City, we play the likes of Callum Paterson and Joe Ralls there. At least those two would score now and again, but now we have Andy Rinomhota (three goals in nearly a hundred and fifty league appearances) playing as our most advanced midfielder- is it any wonder we score so few goals?

The attitude of some supporters towards Colwill baffles me, he’s not had long enough in the team because our previous manager always found a reason to leave him out and, after initial reports to the contrary, it seems the current one thinks the same way.

A lot of the criticism seems to boil down to "This player who doesn't get consistent minutes isn't consistent!"

He hasn't really been given a run of games, certainly not in a consistent position. Far more limited players get off with very little criticism from fans because they put a tackle in. For all the talk in the summer of evolving the playing style, our starting XI remains one that places far more emphasis on athleticism than technical skill

[blue matt]

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He seems to have the ability, I think it must just come down to work ethic for the team and fitness that stops Managers from picking him week in week out.

that's my worry, its the work rate, but saying that, he always looks like he busts a gut when he plays, maybe its a training thing ? ? ?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Sometimes players look poor because of those around them. Conversely sometimes players look good because of those around them.

I always look better when you are posting, Eric :-)

[Hilts]

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We are crying out for a No10 and everything points towards Colwll, what baffles me is that he is good enough to play for Wales ( and will continue to ) yet cant get in our side , its baffling

To be fair Wales options in midfield are pretty poor. Marlon Pack is preferred over Joe Morell at Portsmouth isnt he and I think Morrell can count himself unlucky not to get more game time at the WC.

[City123]

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To be fair Wales options in midfield are pretty poor. Marlon Pack is preferred over Joe Morell at Portsmouth isnt he and I think Morrell can count himself unlucky not to get more game time at the WC.

I wouldn't say Colwill & Morrell are competing for the same spot in the Wales side, Colwill plays further forward and has Wilson, Ramsey and maybe a few others to compete with

[the other bob wilson]

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Managers don't leave players out for fun or because they dislike them as a person; they don't believe they are good enough and that if they do play them they will let them down and get them the sack.

Yeah and he didn't pick him and still got the sack anyway.

[Tuerto]

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When was the last time Colwill actually started a game? We've been told that he was carrying an injury, then the stuff about his growth spurt. Is he fit to play now? I don't really know what to make of it all, but something tells me that he isn't considered good enough to play, because if he isn't injured, then why isn't he playing? It wouldn't be in anyone's interests not to play him if he could make a difference.

From what i have seen of him, and it isn't much, he's pretty good at one thing, and that's driving forward in to space, with the ball in the final third. After that, i think that his all round game is poor, and i mean really poor, almost a bit daft, not getting it. He eternally turns in to opposition players when he should just hold onto the ball and wait for an option. He follows the ball, can't tackle, struggles in the air. If anyone can say differently then fair enough.

His positional sense isn't great either. Sorry to be so negative, i don't want to be, but these things are seemingly ignored. He needs to get better at them, because Hudson can't just rely on a player who has one element in his game that is very good.

[Rjk]

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When was the last time Colwill actually started a game? We've been told that he was carrying an injury, then the stuff about his growth spurt. Is he fit to play now? I don't really know what to make of it all, but something tells me that he isn't considered good enough to play, because if he isn't injured, then why isn't he playing? It wouldn't be in anyone's interests not to play him if he could make a difference.

From what i have seen of him, and it isn't much, he's pretty good at one thing, and that's driving forward in to space, with the ball in the final third. After that, i think that his all round game is poor, and i mean really poor, almost a bit daft, not getting it. He eternally turns in to opposition players when he should just hold onto the ball and wait for an option. He follows the ball, can't tackle, struggles in the air. If anyone can say differently then fair enough.

His positional sense isn't great either. Sorry to be so negative, i don't want to be, but these things are seemingly ignored. He needs to get better at them, because Hudson can't just rely on a player who has one element in his game that is very good.

I think he's a lot better when he has time to play himself into a game, even back in the u23 days I thought he often started slowly but was dominating games by the end.
unfortunately with his injuries he hasn't been ready to start and the cameo appearances he's had he hasn't warranted starting really either.
I think he will be back in the side soon though and we will see great things from him

[Tuerto]

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I think he's a lot better when he has time to play himself into a game, even back in the u23 days I thought he often started slowly but was dominating games by the end.
unfortunately with his injuries he hasn't been ready to start and the cameo appearances he's had he hasn't warranted starting really either.
I think he will be back in the side soon though and we will see great things from him

Maybe. I not as optimistic as you are, although good on you :thumbup: I can't put it any other way, but he just doesn't look right to me, his posture,the way he moves etc. I really hope that i'm wrong and if i am, i expect dogs abuse forever :hehe:

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Yeah and he didn't pick him and still got the sack anyway.

A different reason they reckon though don't they?


I like Colwill personally, he needs to knuckle down and make sure they have to play him, he needs 4 x 100% games and that could be it, but can he knuckle down and do that?