40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[JamesWales]

Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

You are spot on

Completely wasting your time though , he's incapable of being wrong , ever

How do my views on the war differ to yours Sludge?

[stevo]

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Excuse me? What is my view on the Israeli - Gaza war then Stevo?

Neither of us have said that the IDF are faultless? All we have highlighted are those who lit the match before the 'building' was set completely alight.

Out of interest, what view would you prefer us to have? And why?

You have both put the blame for the death of 10s of thousands of Palestinians wholly on Hamas and none of it on Israel.

[Jordi Culé]

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What an interesting take you have on Christian life

Later it is, assuming you survive R.I.P. ?

I've survived. A day on the beer takes it out of me but back to the question at hand.

Israel helped Hamas, it tacitly funded them and continued to do so via Qatar until last October. Israels strategy here can be likened to one of these stupid, steroided up to the eyeballs, tattooed knobheads that keep an XL Pitbull and encourages the dog to act like an aggressive and intimidate all and wthen wonders why the dog named Hamas has then attacked everyone in the kitchen at their house party when they've been dancing to the Sugababes?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/21/world/israel-failed-policy/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eus-borrell-says-israel-financed-creation-gaza-rulers-hamas-2024-01-19/

There's a lot more in depth reporting on this out there some really interesting in relation to the Israeli motives.

I'll state my opinion that both Hamas and the current Israeli government are both a gaggle of *****.

[jeepster]

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I've survived. A day on the beer takes it out of me but back to the question at hand.

Israel helped Hamas, it tacitly funded them and continued to do so via Qatar until last October. Israels strategy here can be likened to one of these stupid, steroided up to the eyeballs, tattooed knobheads that keep an XL Pitbull and encourages the dog to act like an aggressive and intimidate all and wthen wonders why the dog named Hamas has then attacked everyone in the kitchen at their house party when they've been dancing to the Sugababes?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/21/world/israel-failed-policy/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eus-borrell-says-israel-financed-creation-gaza-rulers-hamas-2024-01-19/

There's a lot more in depth reporting on this out there some really interesting in relation to the Israeli motives.

I'll state my opinion that both Hamas and the current Israeli government are both a gaggle of *****.

Cracking post

[the other bob wilson]

Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

I've survived. A day on the beer takes it out of me but back to the question at hand.

Israel helped Hamas, it tacitly funded them and continued to do so via Qatar until last October. Israels strategy here can be likened to one of these stupid, steroided up to the eyeballs, tattooed knobheads that keep an XL Pitbull and encourages the dog to act like an aggressive and intimidate all and wthen wonders why the dog named Hamas has then attacked everyone in the kitchen at their house party when they've been dancing to the Sugababes?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/21/world/israel-failed-policy/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eus-borrell-says-israel-financed-creation-gaza-rulers-hamas-2024-01-19/

There's a lot more in depth reporting on this out there some really interesting in relation to the Israeli motives.

I'll state my opinion that both Hamas and the current Israeli government are both a gaggle of *****.

[JamesWales]

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You have both put the blame for the death of 10s of thousands of Palestinians wholly on Hamas and none of it on Israel.

Completely false, so you kindly retract that!

[JamesWales]

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I said that Hamas could have prevented a lot of Palestinians dying since October by not sanctioning a slaughter at a festival and by not kidnapping people and holding them as hostages. Manifestly, that would have prevented many deaths that have come from Israeli hands.

I also said many protests [in the west] have been wrong in failing to call out Hamas enough. I think that would have helped the situation more by piling pressure on Hamas to release them.

I've no interest in any Zionism or "from the river to the sea" bollocks. Two state solution is the only viable solution and that requires changes in behaviour and government in both countries, not just one.

[Dorcus]

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I said that Hamas could have prevented a lot of Palestinians dying since October by not sanctioning a slaughter at a festival and by not kidnapping people and holding them as hostages. Manifestly, that would have prevented many deaths that have come from Israeli hands.

I also said many protests [in the west] have been wrong in failing to call out Hamas enough. I think that would have helped the situation more by piling pressure on Hamas to release them.

I've no interest in any Zionism or "from the river to the sea" bollocks. Two state solution is the only viable solution and that requires changes in behaviour and government in both countries, not just one.

Had you equally ascribed bollocks to Zionism you might have appeared a tad more credible but I doubt it was an oversight. Also it's worth remembering that the end goal of Zionism is "from the river to the sea".

[JamesWales]

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Had you equally ascribed bollocks to Zionism you might have appeared a tad more credible but I doubt it was an oversight. Also it's worth remembering that the end goal of Zionism is "from the river to the sea".

Happy to confirm, I was applying "bollocks" to both of those ideas / slogans.

[stevo]

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In that case, I retract my statement with full apologies. I’m sorry.

But only as far as you’re concerned. There are others in here who are clearly putting 100% of the blame on Hamas.

[truthpaste]

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In that case, I retract my statement with full apologies. I’m sorry.

But only as far as you’re concerned. There are others in here who are clearly putting 100% of the blame on Hamas.

I've not seen anyone do that? Sure, a few have pointed out that Hamas lit the flame in a massive way, but that's not the same that saying every life lost is soley due to Hamas.

[JamesWales]

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In that case, I retract my statement with full apologies. I’m sorry.

But only as far as you’re concerned. There are others in here who are clearly putting 100% of the blame on Hamas.

No need to apologise, but appreciate the message 👍

[jon1959]

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In that case, I retract my statement with full apologies. I’m sorry.

But only as far as you’re concerned. There are others in here who are clearly putting 100% of the blame on Hamas.

I've not seen anyone do that? Sure, a few have pointed out that Hamas lit the flame in a massive way, but that's not the same that saying every life lost is soley due to Hamas.

"How many times have we seen weeping Palestinian mothers holding the corpses of their children and asking what did he/she do to deserve this? The answer of course is nothing but is 100% down to the actions of Hamas."

I wonder who wrote this and who piled in to support it? (Clue - many bibles were bashed that day!)

[jon1959]

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To put it bluntly - Benjamin Netanyahu is the enemy of the Israeli people, the Palestinian people, and of every person on this earth who values human life. He is also personally responsible for October 7. The fact that he spoke in Congress, with tens of thousands dead in Gaza and no hostage deal in sight, is an embarrassment to Congress and to every single representative who attended.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/26/israelis-want-netanyahu-to-resign-why-did-congress-invite-him-to-speak

[truthpaste]

Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

I said that Hamas could have prevented a lot of Palestinians dying since October by not sanctioning a slaughter at a festival and by not kidnapping people and holding them as hostages. Manifestly, that would have prevented many deaths that have come from Israeli hands.

I also said many protests [in the west] have been wrong in failing to call out Hamas enough. I think that would have helped the situation more by piling pressure on Hamas to release them.

I've no interest in any Zionism or "from the river to the sea" bollocks. Two state solution is the only viable solution and that requires changes in behaviour and government in both countries, not just one.

The two-state solution is generally accepted in modern times to be THE solution. It would appear from our perspective in 2024 to be the lessor of many evils, but it will never provide the peace that we all want to see. The need to eradicate the Jews has never gone away since the rise of Hitler in the 1930's; different vessels are employed to complete the task, but the chief enemy (of Israel) will not stop his efforts until he is dealt with himself, and at the right time, he will be.