40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[jeepster]

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Hamas kills 6 hostages as IDF close in on them in tunnel. Reason given: " Israel not willing to do a deal".

Oh ok let's kill them then.

I despair.

Look their is one hamas in the building blow it up,kill 100 i despair

[TWGL1]

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https://x.com/maajidnawaz/status/1830304047003230233?s=61&t=opXYWu2ILhmySD2aRt-GNg

Over 100,000 Israelis demonstrating today in Tel Aviv and thousands in other Israeli cities against the government's delay in the ceasefire agreement, and calling for Netanyahu's resignation

[jeepster]

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https://x.com/maajidnawaz/status/183...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

Over 100,000 Israelis demonstrating today in Tel Aviv and thousands in other Israeli cities against the government's delay in the ceasefire agreement, and calling for Netanyahu's resignation

If he went it would be a big stepping stone to peace.

[Dorcus]

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If he went it would be a big stepping stone to peace.

Absolutely True! I hope some day he gets tried for war crimes.

[Gofer Blue]

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Look their is one hamas in the building blow it up,kill 100 i despair

As I said, so do I.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Having watched yet another heated arguement on sky news with a raving mad Israeli spokesman .....

And of course there are the equivalent on the Palestinian side....

There is absolutely NO CHANCE EVER of peace in that region

And I think everyone is wasting their time in anything other than trying to limit the deaths on both sides

It's absolutely insane

[Gofer Blue]

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Look their is one hamas in the building blow it up,kill 100 i despair

This is what puzzles me about the scenario you describe - one which seems to be repeated daily in Gaza. Let's imagine that you or I were a Palestinian in a house with several other members of our immediate/extended family and there was a Hamas gunman hiding there amongst them. You would surely know that the presence of this man makes it highly probable that your house would be the target for an IDF bomb/missile. Either you or I have willingly sheltered this guy or he has threatened/intimidated the family into allowing him to stay there. Why would you want to expose yourself/your family to this risk?

[Gofer Blue]

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Having watched yet another heated arguement on sky news with a raving mad Israeli spokesman .....

And of course there are the equivalent on the Palestinian side....

There is absolutely NO CHANCE EVER of peace in that region

And I think everyone is wasting their time in anything other than trying to limit the deaths on both sides

It's absolutely insane

I agree, sheer madness. There must be hundreds of angry young Palestinian men signing up to become Hamas fighters to replace those killed - a never ending cycle of death and destruction.

[jeepster]

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This is what puzzles me about the scenario you describe - one which seems to be repeated daily in Gaza. Let's imagine that you or I were a Palestinian in a house with several other members of our immediate/extended family and there was a Hamas gunman hiding there amongst them. You would surely know that the presence of this man makes it highly probable that your house would be the target for an IDF bomb/missile. Either you or I have willingly sheltered this guy or he has threatened/intimidated the family into allowing him to stay there. Why would you want to expose yourself/your family to this risk?

Because as you posted, intimidation.

[jon1959]

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This is what puzzles me about the scenario you describe - one which seems to be repeated daily in Gaza. Let's imagine that you or I were a Palestinian in a house with several other members of our immediate/extended family and there was a Hamas gunman hiding there amongst them. You would surely know that the presence of this man makes it highly probable that your house would be the target for an IDF bomb/missile. Either you or I have willingly sheltered this guy or he has threatened/intimidated the family into allowing him to stay there. Why would you want to expose yourself/your family to this risk?

What a neat and tidy and simplistic view!

[Gofer Blue]

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What a neat and tidy and simplistic view!

Would you care to elaborate?

[Gofer Blue]

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Would you care to elaborate?

Genuinely interested if you have any comments as this is a topic where I never seen any discussion either on here or in the media. Is it fear of, or conversely, wholesale support of Hamas fighters by the Palestinian people despite the incredible loss of civilian lives? Or is there some other possibility that I have not thought of?

I suppose a complete skeptic could argue that there are no Hamas fighters embedded in Palestinian homes at all and the IDF are simply targetting homes at random?

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Genuinely interested if you have any comments as this is a topic where I never seen any discussion either on here or in the media. Is it fear of, or conversely, wholesale support of Hamas fighters by the Palestinian people despite the incredible loss of civilian lives? Or is there some other possibility that I have not thought of?

I suppose a complete skeptic could argue that there are no Hamas fighters embedded in Palestinian homes at all and the IDF are simply targetting homes at random?

...I'm not being sarcastic when I say....here are some dots for you to join....

‘I am the police, I am the army’: sanctioned settler’s rule in West Bank

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/sep/09/i-am-the-police-i-am-the-army-sanctioned-settlers-rule-in-west-bank

[Gofer Blue]

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...I'm not being sarcastic when I say....here are some dots for you to join....

‘I am the police, I am the army’: sanctioned settler’s rule in West Bank

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...e-in-west-bank

Sorry but I can't see any connection here. The Guardian article is about the localized activities of settler thugs. I am talking about Palestinian homes deep within Gaza itself, somewhere I suspect no Israeli settler would dare enter. These homes are being destroyed by heavy weapons such as artillery and bombs.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Sorry but I can't see any connection here. The Guardian article is about the localized activities of settler thugs. I am talking about Palestinian homes deep within Gaza itself, somewhere I suspect no Israeli settler would dare enter. These homes are being destroyed by heavy weapons such as artillery and bombs.

The IDF are the settlers and the settlers are the IDF. They are all as one. That is the problem. The IDF has the unconditional political and military support from its superpower lapdog, the USA. They also have conscription. What is the difference between bombing/raping/war crimes/torture/murder by conscripted Israelis and HAMAS? This notion that one side is better than the other is totally false. Atrocities are atrocities. Anyone who supports, actively takes part in and supplies weapons to either side is complicit. There's no grey area. You're focusing on HAMAS as if they exist in a vacuum.