40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

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As a culture, we spend 25% (late September to late December) of every year rearranging our retail space to mark the official time of His *arrival. Do you know of anyone else in history who after 2023 years has this impact on most of the world? Also as a culture, no other name is mentioned as much in conversation, and no, I'm not including those who know who He is. I'm talking about people like you, and the nervous 'please shut the thread down' sort.

*Granted, the secular masses of most of Europe and beyond mainly can't quite remember why they are celebrating it

This clip with Alf Garnett shows how confused we are, and this was 51 years ago! >>> CLIP
NB: Start at 9m 45s if you are short of time.

Alf mentions the Middle East, and for those who want a heads up on the end game, then the God who has got every other prophecy 100% correct has stated this:-

Future Deliverance for Jerusalem:

This message concerning the fate of Israel came from the Lord: “This message is from the Lord, who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and formed the human spirit. I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah.
On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock.
All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves.
Zechariah 12:1-3

This is not again any evidence at all of his existence , you have quoted words from a book , that's nothing , oh Jesus said this etc .....no evidence , might as well quote Janet and John

We as idiotic humans spend millions on being scared of imaginary ghosts and monsters .....Halloween......absolutely no evidence for them either but we spend money ......doesn't mean they exist

The extension of what was originally a pagan festival into ten days of stupidity is as much to do with capitalist marketing as it is to do with any evidence of God

You celebrate God because you are from western Europe

If you were from aborigine Australia or the deepest jungles of South America......where thankfully the rampant Christian missionaries didn't get to .....you would be relying on something else

It's simply an accident of birth and the power of brainwashing that makes you believe in something that doesn't exist

If you were a native red Indian in Canada you would worship the sun or the rain

At least they respect the land which is more than can be said for a lot of your western Christians

[life on mars]

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Isreal ned to finish the job now and not ceasefire or pull way they hated anyway so its win win .


Next steps :
Defeat Hamas
Let folk in Gaz and Palestinians hold free form fear democratic elections not one run by proxy countries and terrorists .
Gaza and the new state run by UN not any arabic state ,

And Hamas who actually murder their own week in and week out if they defy them ( see below ,Corby you watching ) have theri funds frozen in their cosy Turkish accounts .

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/

The solution to peace likes with the Palestinians wanting to talk peace they had a chance with Clinton's not perfect deal buy hey it GAVE MORE THAN THEY HAVE NOW .

This is a lot like Ukraine who gave in and surrounded their nuclear capability , Israel have done the same with withdrawing from Gaza for what benefit you may ask .

The west and its donations are quietly funding death ,weapon purchase , tunnel building as Hamas annual billion turnover proves

[truthpaste]

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This is not again any evidence at all of his existence , you have quoted words from a book , that's nothing , oh Jesus said this etc .....no evidence , might as well quote Janet and John

We as idiotic humans spend millions on being scared of imaginary ghosts and monsters .....Halloween......absolutely no evidence for them either but we spend money ......doesn't mean they exist

The extension of what was originally a pagan festival into ten days of stupidity is as much to do with capitalist marketing as it is to do with any evidence of God

You celebrate God because you are from western Europe

If you were from aborigine Australia or the deepest jungles of South America......where thankfully the rampant Christian missionaries didn't get to .....you would be relying on something else

It's simply an accident of birth and the power of brainwashing that makes you believe in something that doesn't exist

If you were a native red Indian in Canada you would worship the sun or the rain

At least they respect the land which is more than can be said for a lot of your western Christians

There's no shortage of evidence for anyone who takes the trouble to look.
Even the BBC don't deny the history of Christ and His extraordinary influence on the people of that generation and beyond.
Australia, NZ, Africa, South & North America and Asia are not Western Europe, but there are billions of people who currently serve Christ as Lord and God across those areas of the World.
Your choice of remaining in denial is a common one in the UK, but please don't suggest that because it's the choice of the majority, it's a choice that can be defended or debated successfully!
If it could then people like you and the Genie wouldn't be left with empty insults to aim at Christians or cartoon images of an old man with a grey beard

[truthpaste]

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Isreal ned to finish the job now and not ceasefire or pull way they hated anyway so its win win .


Next steps :
Defeat Hamas
Let folk in Gaz and Palestinians hold free form fear democratic elections not one run by proxy countries and terrorists .
Gaza and the new state run by UN not any arabic state ,

And Hamas who actually murder their own week in and week out if they defy them ( see below ,Corby you watching ) have theri funds frozen in their cosy Turkish accounts .

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/

The solution to peace likes with the Palestinians wanting to talk peace they had a chance with Clinton's not perfect deal buy hey it GAVE MORE THAN THEY HAVE NOW .

This is a lot like Ukraine who gave in and surrounded their nuclear capability , Israel have done the same with withdrawing from Gaza for what benefit you may ask .

The west and its donations are quietly funding death ,weapon purchase , tunnel building as Hamas annual billion turnover proves

Next steps :
Defeat Hamas
Let folk in Gaz and Palestinians hold free form fear democratic elections not one run by proxy countries and terrorists.
Gaza and the new state run by UN not any arabic state.

I completely agree. Let's hope they have the wisdom to do so.

[Heathblue]

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Not read the whole Fred, it appears to be the usual suspects saying the same thing time and time again so don't know if any one has brought this up but i did listen to what i thought a decent podcast on the subject this morning, The chap an attorney, who was trying to convince his listeners and it's not the 1st time I've heard this, it's a genocide for a land grab and the trillions of federal reserve notes in oil that sits beneath the land, coupled with a larger Suez canal that is to be built, when you think that wars have been started for oil previously, it doesn't seem too big a conspiracy theory.

[jon1959]

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Life On Mars and Truthpaste in complete agreement? What an alt right match made in fantasy 'heaven'!

[truthpaste]

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Life On Mars and Truthpaste in complete agreement? What an alt right match made in fantasy 'heaven'!

It's so easy to throw the baby out with the bath water just because you may generally hold different views to people.
We all need to realise that everyone - even those that may hate us for what we stand for - can have certain views that we agree with; and when we do we should say so.

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There's no shortage of evidence for anyone who takes the trouble to look.
Even the BBC don't deny the history of Christ and His extraordinary influence on the people of that generation and beyond.
Australia, NZ, Africa, South & North America and Asia are not Western Europe, but there are billions of people who currently serve Christ as Lord and God across those areas of the World.
Your choice of remaining in denial is a common one in the UK, but please don't suggest that because it's the choice of the majority, it's a choice that can be defended or debated successfully!
If it could then people like you and the Genie wouldn't be left with empty insults to aim at Christians or cartoon images of an old man with a grey beard

The reason why parts of Asia, Africa, Australia, New Zealand and whole swathes of Latin America are raving mad Christians.......is obvious

Us whites went over there , raped and pillaged and gave out loads of bibles to vulnerable people and set up churches

It's called colonialism

I mean do you think these people chose all this daft nonsense?

The brainwashing of the poor and weak is how religion thrives

The lost tribes of the amazon have survived precisely because they have been kept away from all the god nonsense

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It's so easy to throw the baby out with the bath water just because you may generally hold different views to people.
We all need to realise that everyone - even those that may hate us for what we stand for - can have certain views that we agree with; and when we do we should say so.

So in other words another right wing Christian

Blimey what a surprise

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There's no shortage of evidence for anyone who takes the trouble to look.
Even the BBC don't deny the history of Christ and His extraordinary influence on the people of that generation and beyond.
Australia, NZ, Africa, South & North America and Asia are not Western Europe, but there are billions of people who currently serve Christ as Lord and God across those areas of the World.
Your choice of remaining in denial is a common one in the UK, but please don't suggest that because it's the choice of the majority, it's a choice that can be defended or debated successfully!
If it could then people like you and the Genie wouldn't be left with empty insults to aim at Christians or cartoon images of an old man with a grey beard

Remaining in denial or as most sane people would call it .....living in reality

Being ruled in thought and deed by a dusty old book is on the wane

Christianity , Islam , Pentecostal Sheffield Wednesday ......its all utter nonsense

And whilst land grab is the main reason for the troubles in the middle east its your lots god or version of God or Allah that's a very close number two

When I pass a church on a Sunday morning or see Muslims outside a mosque or Jewish people going to the synagogue I don't abuse them or hurl insults

But I think what an utter comedy this all is and to see kids being dragged along ?

It's all a cult of stupidity and they are all arguing like ferrets in a sack all these years later

Absolute cobblers the lot of it

[stevo]

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Sludge / Truthpaste,

Why do you waste time trying to change each other’s position on faith? I assume you are both aware of cognitive dissonance and confirmation basis? Wasting your time.

[stevo]

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Isreal ned to finish the job now and not ceasefire or pull way they hated anyway so its win win .


Next steps :
Defeat Hamas
Let folk in Gaz and Palestinians hold free form fear democratic elections not one run by proxy countries and terrorists .
Gaza and the new state run by UN not any arabic state ,

And Hamas who actually murder their own week in and week out if they defy them ( see below ,Corby you watching ) have theri funds frozen in their cosy Turkish accounts .

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/

The solution to peace likes with the Palestinians wanting to talk peace they had a chance with Clinton's not perfect deal buy hey it GAVE MORE THAN THEY HAVE NOW .

This is a lot like Ukraine who gave in and surrounded their nuclear capability , Israel have done the same with withdrawing from Gaza for what benefit you may ask .

The west and its donations are quietly funding death ,weapon purchase , tunnel building as Hamas annual billion turnover proves

Finish the job even at the expense of hundreds if not thousands of more palestinian civilians? Really?

[truthpaste]

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The reason why parts of Asia, Africa, Australia, New Zealand and whole swathes of Latin America are raving mad Christians.......is obvious

Us whites went over there , raped and pillaged and gave out loads of bibles to vulnerable people and set up churches

It's called colonialism

I mean do you think these people chose all this daft nonsense?

The brainwashing of the poor and weak is how religion thrives

The lost tribes of the amazon have survived precisely because they have been kept away from all the god nonsense

Your swift baseless argument assumes that all such individuals are uneducated and incapable of understanding the alternative position of being an agnostic or an atheist.
That assumption ignores people like John Lennox (seen earlier on this thread) who regularly makes mincemeat out of Richard Dawkins, Peter Atkins, Christopher Hitchens and many other leading agnostics.
Lennox uses science to prove the redundancy of any position that doesn't acknowledge an Almighty God.

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Your swift baseless argument assumes that all such individuals are uneducated and incapable of understanding the alternative position of being an agnostic or an atheist.
That assumption ignores people like John Lennox (seen earlier on this thread) who regularly makes mincemeat out of Richard Dawkins, Peter Atkins, Christopher Hitchens and many other leading agnostics.
Lennox uses science to prove the redundancy of any position that doesn't acknowledge an Almighty God.

You are a complete dinosaur 🦕

Ask God about them

[jon1959]

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