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  • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

    Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
    Absolutely right and I'm disgusted by our country taking sides in this conflagration. I wouldn't expect any thing sensible from USA but it's revolting to see our lot take sides in this tragedy.

    It's heartbreaking to see innocent Jewish lives being taken but it's equally harrowing to see innocent Palestinian lives being destroyed by unrestrained wanton violence.

    I think a lot of respect needs to be shown towards the Celtic fans today for their lone voice in support of the massacre of the innocent.
    supporting the massacre of the innocent, is something we should all respect, i assume we need a sarcasm emoji

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    • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

      Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
      Margaret Hodge is an entitled, partisan bitch
      She was completely one eyed in the interview and although Owen Jones can be an easy target she was basically saying if you don't agree with me you are supporting terrorism , it was pathetic

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      • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

        This subject makes me despair and so I steer clear of threads on it, but, although my natural sympathy is with the Palestinian people, that does not stretch to Hamas who can have no justification for what happened on Saturday. On the other hand, I can't get this feeling out of my mind that elements of the Israeli Government, particularly this Israeli Government, will be relishing what follows the weekend atrocity.

        As I say, I despair and the worst thing is that history tells you that anyone who says they have an "oven ready" solution to the whole problem is either a fool or doesn't really understand what's is going on in the middle east.

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        • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
          This subject makes me despair and so I steer clear of threads on it, but, although my natural sympathy is with the Palestinian people, that does not stretch to Hamas who can have no justification for what happened on Saturday. On the other hand, I can't get this feeling out of my mind that elements of the Israeli Government, particularly this Israeli Government, will be relishing what follows the weekend atrocity.

          As I say, I despair and the worst thing is that history tells you that anyone who says they have an "oven ready" solution to the whole problem is either a fool or doesn't really understand what's is going on in the middle east.
          Hamas have given Netanyahu carte blanche to do what he's always wanted to do with Gaza. The fact internally Netanyahu is facing criticism due to the attacks about failure of intelligence and security will also contribute to his response.

          My over simplistic view is Netanyahu need Hamas and Hamas need Netanyahu. They're both central to the others political beliefs and validates the others actions.

          What did Hamas hope to achieve with the attacks? It seems a ridiculous strategy and the costs which are already being felt by the people of Gaza was always going to be the outcome. Perhaps Hamas want to make Martyrs of the whole population? With most of the Western governments supporting Israels right 'to defend itself' and the barbaric nature of the Hamas attacks they could well achieve 'martyring' the whole of the Gaza.

          It makes you wonder how they view their 'people'?

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          • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

            Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
            Hamas have given Netanyahu carte blanche to do what he's always wanted to do with Gaza. The fact internally Netanyahu is facing criticism due to the attacks about failure of intelligence and security will also contribute to his response.

            My over simplistic view is Netanyahu need Hamas and Hamas need Netanyahu. They're both central to the others political beliefs and validates the others actions.

            What did Hamas hope to achieve with the attacks? It seems a ridiculous strategy and the costs which are already being felt by the people of Gaza was always going to be the outcome. Perhaps Hamas want to make Martyrs of the whole population? With most of the Western governments supporting Israels right 'to defend itself' and the barbaric nature of the Hamas attacks they could well achieve 'martyring' the whole of the Gaza.

            It makes you wonder how they view their 'people'?
            I remember the same being said about ISIS and it was pointed out that they were goading the west into military action as it would create more hostility to the west among the civilian population which would inevitably suffer with any attack. That seems as good an explanation as any for what Hamas did. They must have expected a deadly response but, not only don't they care, but it might actually suit their purpose.

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            • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

              Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
              Margaret Hodge is an entitled, partisan bitch
              Staggering, you have so much hate inside you, but thanks for letting us know.

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              • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                I think you need to rethink this. The mass slaughter of innocent Arabs might not bother someone as entitled as you in the slightest, but thank Goodness there are better people than you around.
                I think you probably want to rethink this tbh.

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                • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                  Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                  Hamas have given Netanyahu carte blanche to do what he's always wanted to do with Gaza. The fact internally Netanyahu is facing criticism due to the attacks about failure of intelligence and security will also contribute to his response.

                  My over simplistic view is Netanyahu need Hamas and Hamas need Netanyahu. They're both central to the others political beliefs and validates the others actions.

                  What did Hamas hope to achieve with the attacks? It seems a ridiculous strategy and the costs which are already being felt by the people of Gaza was always going to be the outcome. Perhaps Hamas want to make Martyrs of the whole population? With most of the Western governments supporting Israels right 'to defend itself' and the barbaric nature of the Hamas attacks they could well achieve 'martyring' the whole of the Gaza.

                  It makes you wonder how they view their 'people'?
                  Nutter on the right who hates Arabs Mr Netanyahu?

                  Nutter on the left who hates Jews Mr Hamas ?

                  A plague on your houses the both of you

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                  • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                    Originally posted by pipster View Post
                    Staggering, you have so much hate inside you, but thanks for letting us know.
                    Not hate; insight.

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                    • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                      Originally posted by + the native hipster View Post
                      supporting the massacre of the innocent, is something we should all respect, i assume we need a sarcasm emoji
                      Why would we need a sarcasm emoji when we've got you?

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                      • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel



                        thought this was interesting, a different perspective than a lot of the stories coming out of the region

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                        • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                          Originally posted by Robin Friday's Ghost View Post
                          I remember the same being said about ISIS and it was pointed out that they were goading the west into military action as it would create more hostility to the west among the civilian population which would inevitably suffer with any attack. That seems as good an explanation as any for what Hamas did. They must have expected a deadly response but, not only don't they care, but it might actually suit their purpose.
                          It's safe to assume that Hamas hold their own people in the same high regard they hold the Jewish population.

                          Netanyahu although not as big of a cuunt than Hamas will fully use Jewish deaths as a reason to do what he's always wanted by bombing and bulldozing Gaza.

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                          • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                            It seems that the Israeli army are amassing on the Gaza border in readiness for a ground attack. If this goes ahead then I assume it will involve house-to-house, street-by-street gun fights with terrified civilians trapped in their homes and with crazed Hamas gunmen using them as human shields. I fear the slaughter will be far greater than anything seen so far.

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                            • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

                              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                              This subject makes me despair and so I steer clear of threads on it, but, although my natural sympathy is with the Palestinian people, that does not stretch to Hamas who can have no justification for what happened on Saturday. On the other hand, I can't get this feeling out of my mind that elements of the Israeli Government, particularly this Israeli Government, will be relishing what follows the weekend atrocity.

                              As I say, I despair and the worst thing is that history tells you that anyone who says they have an "oven ready" solution to the whole problem is either a fool or doesn't really understand what's is going on in the middle east.
                              This. How on earth anyone could deliberately shoot an innocent child/baby is beyond my understanding.

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                              • Re: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel



                                This was Margaret Hodge , labour politican of Jewish origin basically attacking someone for talking about the Palestinian people and apparently denying Israelis the right to defend themselves

                                Which is not what he did at all

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