Labours stop the shirkers policy

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Labours stop the shirkers policy

Lots of people drive , a minority get pissed

It's against the law to park in disabled bays unless you have a blue badge , a minority do it

A minority of people are in prison , most people are not

But benefits ? .....oh they are all at ,swinging the lead , I know 4 blokes in my street and my aunty gwen knows even more ! .....gossip , gossip , gossip

Covid changed the World, and lots of people decided this is nice, i'll see if I can pack in work and get on some sort of sickness benefits then fiddle with work part-time.

The UK is an outlier, it's not affecting the other G7 countries in the same way since covid.

There are websites teaching people how to claim, some even charge a yearly fee for the latest buzzwords guaranteed to pass the tests, that has to stop, hopefully, they do find and take good care of the genuine recipients.

It's not nice but either they address it or in X years' time stop it for everyone as there won't be enough money for anyone.

[JamesWales]

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Lots of people drive , a minority get pissed

It's against the law to park in disabled bays unless you have a blue badge , a minority do it

A minority of people are in prison , most people are not

But benefits ? .....oh they are all at ,swinging the lead , I know 4 blokes in my street and my aunty gwen knows even more ! .....gossip , gossip , gossip

I'm not sure if you you are disagreeing with me on this, but it doesn't sound like you would be?

I'm not saying all people are at it at all. Although I do think work is good and work is good for people, or at least it is as long as it doesn't involve healthy young people being stuck in their homes isolated from people for 40 hours a week for their careers

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Don't take things personally, it's not aimed at you or anyone on here. I understand the vast majority of people are genuine.

The problem is there are far too many who are not and are trying to milk the system, and there just isn't enough money for the liberals, the Tories, reform, or Labour to keep paying people who don't need it, and that can work.

If you are going to get angry get angry at them, if people are pretending to have cancer or MS or Parkinsons, they need to be found and stopped from claiming also.

Do you realise that if this carries on without being addressed, there will be no welfare system left at all, so genuine people in the future will miss out?

PS won't happen to me, I'm mentally strong.

You are an idiot

Mentally strong ? U utter fool

If a bloke can go to Iraq and get so ill with what he's seen he need to be in a psychiatric hospital then it can definitely happen to you as you are clearly not as mentally strong ....what a stupid self view ....as him

If you were in a serious car crash , if you were robbed by a Gunman, if you saw your loved ones die then being mentally strong doesn't come into it you idiot

And if you then needed help and support I sincerely hope you would be on a very long waiting list like everyone else

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Covid changed the World, and lots of people decided this is nice, i'll see if I can pack in work and get on some sort of sickness benefits then fiddle with work part-time.

The UK is an outlier, it's not affecting the other G7 countries in the same way since covid.

There are websites teaching people how to claim, some even charge a yearly fee for the latest buzzwords guaranteed to pass the tests, that has to stop, hopefully, they do find and take good care of the genuine recipients.

It's not nice but either they address it or in X years' time stop it for everyone as there won't be enough money for anyone.

Go and play with your mentally strong mind you idiot

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I'm not sure if you you are disagreeing with me on this, but it doesn't sound like you would be?

I'm not saying all people are at it at all. Although I do think work is good and work is good for people, or at least it is as long as it doesn't involve healthy young people being stuck in their homes isolated from people for 40 hours a week for their careers

I totally agree with you JW ,

It's the idiots like Mr NCB who thinks everyone except him is a shirker who
need a lobotomy

[bobh]

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I'm on PIP, and I can say it is not easy to get.
You have to jump through hoops to get it (Figuratively - if you could jump at all you wouldn't get it!)

I know some people know how to play the system, but I think this sort of benefit fraud is small compared to money lost through tax avoidance and evasion.

[jon1959]

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I'm on PIP, and I can say it is not easy to get.
You have to jump through hoops to get it (Figuratively - if you could jump at all you wouldn't get it!)

I know some people know how to play the system, but I think this sort of benefit fraud is small compared to money lost through tax avoidance and evasion.

And unclaimed benefits.

[Alfresco]

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Sludge was quite happy when they took money off the pensioners now Labour are after the shirkers he is up in arms.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I'm on PIP, and I can say it is not easy to get.
You have to jump through hoops to get it (Figuratively - if you could jump at all you wouldn't get it!)

I know some people know how to play the system, but I think this sort of benefit fraud is small compared to money lost through tax avoidance and evasion.

You can't come on here on tell it how it is bill

You are dealing with people who know fck all but think they do

It's very easy to deal with fraud , especially big scale tax fraud , which costs billions

But most of the people yet again being crucified by the know everything's on here and on the radio phone ins and by the government are easy targets and many can't defend themselves

A bloke who parks in a disabled bay or who makes a false claim for some extra goods damaged in a house flood doesn't see himself as a fraud and will be the first to moan about immigrants and people on benefits

The hypocrisy and shit housery and double standards is enormous

You can't educate these ignorant fools , they know everything and will never need anything

Until they do and their hands come out , pleading

But Satan laughs at them and spreads his wings

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Sludge was quite happy when they took money off the pensioners now Labour are after the shirkers he is up in arms.

You are confusing me with an arsehole called Alfresco

[Alfresco]

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You are confusing me with an arsehole called Alfresco

No confusion, you classed every pensioner the same making out they could afford doing without the heating allowance. This shirker policy seems to have hit a nerve with you.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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No confusion, you classed every pensioner the same making out they could afford doing without the heating allowance. This shirker policy seems to have hit a nerve with you.

I am afraid there is

My views are that apart from his recent good work on Ukraine and jailing all those racist rioters starmer his leadership , his government and his policies has been dreadful

In fact there's a few threads about that including my views if you want to check

Take a look

You are confusing me with someone else

[Alfresco]

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Don't know why the government don't means test every person claiming benefits.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Don't know why the government don't means test every person claiming benefits.

I certainly agree with that

[JamesWales]

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I certainly agree with that

The general argument against it is that it costs a lot to administer means testing. Also, the whole system becomes flakier if it relies on people putting money in but then not being able to benefit from it.

Some means testing is right, but some should also be universal. Otherwise, why not ask to see people's bank accounts before they go on the operating table?

The wealthy should pay more in tax, but they have a right to benefit from that collective funding in some cases too.