Charlie Kirk

[Coyote]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Oh Dear. you have no idea where my empathy is, based on your discernment reading shitposting on a message board. Again the hate of the left rears its head above the parapet, Just for your info I don't have a political wing but have plenty of empathy, however i do not need to signal my virtue about it constantly but have commented about it on numerous occasions, i'd write to your MP and tell him you want some action, maybe Sr Kier could have stood up to Trump today and called him out over it, maybe he did ? or maybe he's been just as complicit ?

Thank you for failing to address even a single point I raised against you and instead publish some gibberish that wouldn't be out of place in the Daily Mail comment section.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: Charlie Kirk

I'm here for the mental gymnastics, it's great entertainment

[jon1959]

Re: Charlie Kirk

I'm here for the mental gymnastics, it's great entertainment

In your case, Gluey, the word normally applied is not gymnastics but contortions!

[JamesWales]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Thank you for failing to address even a single point I raised against you and instead publish some gibberish that wouldn't be out of place in the Daily Mail comment section.

Tbf, you can't really accuse someone of failing to address points when you are trying to shift things to the Daily Mail and the war in Palestine.

[az city]

Re: Charlie Kirk

[QUOTE=Dorcus;5613324]I disagree. People should be allowed to express their feelings freely without the fear of losing their jobs over it. If it's a Physics, Chemistry, Geography, IT, PE teacher then their personal opinions do not affect their ability to teach their chosen subjects and employers have absolutely no right to get involved in any way. This is grotesque overreach by a minority private sector group./QUOTE]

Correct. Why would privately held (and expressed) views impinge on a teacher's capabilities at work?

There seem to be many hypocrites on the right.

[az city]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Not sure what a Trump Fanboy is but yes, the faaaaaar left are apoplectic on X and it is great, its the find out stage of FAFO, remember when X wasn't owned by Musk ?, the cancel culture started, especially regarding the Covid narrative, its just role reversal they even banned Trump , the senate hearing and watching the Dems go ballistic with KP just sticking the finger to them, if you dont take it too seriously its great entertainment

I've been curious about this for a while. Can you tell me some well-known "faaaaaar left" folk?

[stevo]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Not sure what a Trump Fanboy is but yes, the faaaaaar left are apoplectic on X and it is great, its the find out stage of FAFO, remember when X wasn't owned by Musk ?, the cancel culture started, especially regarding the Covid narrative, its just role reversal they even banned Trump , the senate hearing and watching the Dems go ballistic with KP just sticking the finger to them, if you dont take it too seriously its great entertainment

Trump fanboy - someone who is a fan of Trump and thinks that anyone who isn't must be deranged.

You haven't answered my question though - forget the whataboutery - was the cancelling of Jimmy Kimmel justified?

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Charlie Kirk

I disagree. People should be allowed to express their feelings freely without the fear of losing their jobs over it. If it's a Physics, Chemistry, Geography, IT, PE teacher then their personal opinions do not affect their ability to teach their chosen subjects and employers have absolutely no right to get involved in any way. This is grotesque overreach by a minority private sector group.

Correct. Why would privately held (and expressed) views impinge on a teacher's capabilities at work?

There seem to be many hypocrites on the right.

Oh massively, free speech [when it agrees with me]..

BUT there is a line, if you are mentally disturbed enough to post a video of yourself (I don't know who was a teacher or who wasn't, have just seen the montage) celebrating someone being shot in the middle of the day sitting at a desk, then you shouldn't be teaching kids.

The other side of the coin is that I think its fine for a company to say 'we don't want to be associated with your very public views' to anyone from the right or the left. I don't think there should be some line drawn between whether someone is a teacher or not a teacher.

People have got to start realising that posting a tiktok video isn't the same as saying something in your own house.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Regardless of the subject matter and the contempt that anyone has about someone reporting an event or action to one's employer, partner, family, professional body or social circle, for my part we should take responsibility of our own action first and foremost if truth is exposed. This principle is not confined to politics to 'yours truly' (whose life was once seriously affected by a mistake I once made and which was subsequently exposed).

P.S. Don't ask!

[Dorcus]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Regardless of the subject matter and the contempt that anyone has about someone reporting an event or action to one's employer, partner, family, professional body or social circle, for my part we should take responsibility of our own action first and foremost if truth is exposed. This principle is not confined to politics to 'yours truly' (whose life was once seriously affected by a mistake I once made and which was subsequently exposed).

P.S. Don't ask!

Aw go on TBG you know we're bound to....

The (very) old line on political faux pàs was "hand caught in till" (Labour) and "hand trapped up skirt"(Conservatives).

These days political misdeeds are far more expansive.

[Heathblue]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Trump fanboy - someone who is a fan of Trump and thinks that anyone who isn't must be deranged.

You haven't answered my question though - forget the whataboutery - was the cancelling of Jimmy Kimmel justified?

I could use your fan boy analogy to label some as something very unpleasant analogy but in the interest of decency I'll just think it but not say it. 👍

Regarding JK he's another like CK i.d not know much about other than via. the latest stuff, but no
Not at all would I have wanted him censored and I would think that they guy himself wouldn't have wanted it, it's simply another left v right narrative being played out with everyone wanting their say

Hope this is sufficient.

The answer is No.

[stevo]

Re: Charlie Kirk

I could use your fan boy analogy to label some as something very unpleasant analogy but in the interest of decency I'll just think it but not say it. ��

Regarding JK he's another like CK i.d not know much about other than via. the latest stuff, but no
Not at all would I have wanted him censored and I would think that they guy himself wouldn't have wanted it, it's simply another left v right narrative being played out with everyone wanting their say

Hope this is sufficient.

The answer is No.

And now Trump says TV networks opposed to him should 'maybe' lose licence. You really think this a right vs left narrative? It's not - it's authoritarianism.

[az city]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Sorry, did you just accuse someone else of offering customary pomposity? 😅😅😅.

You can read what I wrote. You offered nothing whatsoever in relation to it at all. Just a totally random, made up accusation of "othering", when no "othering" of anything or anyone was made. It may have made a small amount of sense if "othering" required nation states in order for it to occur. But it doesn't, so your point wasn't even accurate.

Even from the master, that was a classic strawman from you.

As I said, if you can't stick to a topic and just resort to ad hominem attacks, then perhaps it's best to just stop wasting everyones time.

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

[JamesWales]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Oh massively, free speech [when it agrees with me]..

BUT there is a line, if you are mentally disturbed enough to post a video of yourself (I don't know who was a teacher or who wasn't, have just seen the montage) celebrating someone being shot in the middle of the day sitting at a desk, then you shouldn't be teaching kids.

The other side of the coin is that I think its fine for a company to say 'we don't want to be associated with your very public views' to anyone from the right or the left. I don't think there should be some line drawn between whether someone is a teacher or not a teacher.

People have got to start realising that posting a tiktok video isn't the same as saying something in your own house.

Very sensible put Eric 👍

[Coyote]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Tbf, you can't really accuse someone of failing to address points when you are trying to shift things to the Daily Mail and the war in Palestine.

It's absolutely pertinent though, and shows that your priorities are not in the best position to put it mildly. If you cannot bring yourself to care about that even remotely, why should I care about what you care about? If you show no sorrow or empathy for child victims of a genocide, but complain about some guy who pretty much encouraged it throughout his life, then there is something noticeably wrong.