Charlie Kirk

[Dorcus]

Re: Charlie Kirk

It's absolutely pertinent though, and shows that your priorities are not in the best position to put it mildly. If you cannot bring yourself to care about that even remotely, why should I care about what you care about? If you show no sorrow or empathy for child victims of a genocide, but complain about some guy who pretty much encouraged it throughout his life, then there is something noticeably wrong.

Good grief Coyote don't tell me you've only just reached that opinion! 😭

[truthpaste]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

I never heard Him call for 'religion' - but I did hear him talk often about someone who does bring lasting peace.

Kirk vs Oxford University

Sadly Lennon was a dreamer (when he penned the above), and mankind will never know peace because countries will always exist, moreso ego and selfishness is part of human nature. Nice song though.

[Dorcus]

Re: Charlie Kirk

I never heard Him call for 'religion' - but I did hear him talk often about someone who does bring lasting peace.

Kirk vs Oxford University

Sadly Lennon was a dreamer (when he penned the above), and mankind will never know peace because countries will always exist, moreso ego and selfishness is part of human nature. Nice song though.

I didn't realise you were such a pessimist Truthy

[Heathblue]

Re: Charlie Kirk

And now Trump says TV networks opposed to him should 'maybe' lose licence. You really think this a right vs left narrative? It's not - it's authoritarianism.

Straight off the bat, Trump was POTUS when he was banned from Twitter so "it's authoritarianism" is just cobblers
1,000's of conservative accounts also banned from Twitter F/Book & Youtube, so whilst its against my own opinion, I 100% understand why he's driving his revenge and thats why i'm not really bothered with it.
But to your post
It's all bollox, Trump is being Trump, his MO is that there is no such thing as bad publicity you'd probably be surprised to know that myself and my Doris are very often calling him an idiot (stronger language) over some of his Truths!!!, he's not a bloke i'd want a pint with but the over the top TDS on this platform and others, I find strange, he's a politician (sort of) so that for me makes him a wrong un, you know I hate his beautiful vaccine bullshit, his lack of action and the continued weapons supply to ISRAEL is abhorrent, his bullshit about ending the UKRAINE war in 24 hours, the lack of transparency over EPSTEIN, I could go and on about his BS and join the gang but i see him as not much different to those who came before him, all bullshitters and liars but protected by the MSM, the previous administration had 4 years to lock him up and they never!!!! its a big club and he's in it of course!! but maybe just a different lodge. The left V right narrative is simply to keep us arguing with each other and TBF, i like a good argument!!!

I didn't get into SM until 1985, the Ahoy concert which was broadcast on Channel 4 the tube so missed all the real early stuff
I saw the 5 x 5 tour in Madrid and they played this and could have cried with emotion
it was a spiritual moment and this is the best version of it on youtube, Dexbam has some great SM mixes of the early material

[JamesWales]

Re: Charlie Kirk

It's absolutely pertinent though, and shows that your priorities are not in the best position to put it mildly. If you cannot bring yourself to care about that even remotely, why should I care about what you care about? If you show no sorrow or empathy for child victims of a genocide, but complain about some guy who pretty much encouraged it throughout his life, then there is something noticeably wrong.

Yeah but you can say that about anything. There is always things that are far far more important going on, it doesn't mean you can't talk about other topics.

The war in Israel and Palestine is far more important than any topic discussed on here. So is there war in Ukraine and the war in Sudan (which no one talks about).

If you are talking about the crisis of housing affordability, I can't just shut the debate down by saying...but what about Sudan!

Likewise, the Daily Mail comment. I always find thats just a fairly sneery comment made when someone can't be arsed to debate the topic anymore. The same could be said in reverse about the guardian comments section but it doesn't win any arguments

[stevo]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Straight off the bat, Trump was POTUS when he was banned from Twitter so "it's authoritarianism" is just cobblers
1,000's of conservative accounts also banned from Twitter F/Book & Youtube, so whilst its against my own opinion, I 100% understand why he's driving his revenge and thats why i'm not really bothered with it.

But there's a difference between a .com company silencing people vs. an elected government silencing people.

It's all bollox, Trump is being Trump,

And that is the problem.

I didn't get into SM until 1985, the Ahoy concert which was broadcast on Channel 4 the tube so missed all the real early stuff
I saw the 5 x 5 tour in Madrid and they played this and could have cried with emotion
it was a spiritual moment and this is the best version of it on youtube, Dexbam has some great SM mixes of the early material

I enjoyed that. Thanks for posting as I've not heard that version before. The most valuable contribution you've made to this message board so far

I don't listen to their first album often enough (note to self) as it's is a bit patchy. But Real to Real Cacophony through to NGD is where it's at for me.

[az city]

Re: Charlie Kirk

I never heard Him call for 'religion' - but I did hear him talk often about someone who does bring lasting peace.

Kirk vs Oxford University

Sadly Lennon was a dreamer (when he penned the above), and mankind will never know peace because countries will always exist, moreso ego and selfishness is part of human nature. Nice song though.

Who/what created human nature if it wasn't your god?

[truthpaste]

Re: Charlie Kirk

I didn't realise you were such a pessimist Truthy

Far from it, I don't see much point in wasting such creative and/or musical talent on barking up the wrong tree.
You can't solve those issues via philosophy, religion or hoping for the best.
Only via one man.

[Dorcus]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Far from it, I don't see much point in wasting such creative and/or musical talent on barking up the wrong tree.
You can't solve those issues via philosophy, religion or hoping for the best.
Only via one man.

You're an off the scale pessimist! If you can't see that human beings have evolved and adapted over time yet you believe wars will never end, there will always be nationalism and human beings will always be selfish then I feel sorry for you. Thankfully there will eventually be nothing of the sort. Human intelligence has the capacity to reject evil and I believe our species will meet that goal.

I think you need to have a quiet word with your mate in the sky if you believe his blueprint has consigned us to ignorance and destruction.

[Gofer Blue]

Re: Charlie Kirk

. Human intelligence has the capacity to reject evil and I believe our species will meet that goal.

[az city]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Gofer - check your pms.

[truthpaste]

Re: Charlie Kirk

You're an off the scale pessimist! If you can't see that human beings have evolved and adapted over time yet you believe wars will never end, there will always be nationalism and human beings will always be selfish then I feel sorry for you. Thankfully there will eventually be nothing of the sort. Human intelligence has the capacity to reject evil and I believe our species will meet that goal.

I think you need to have a quiet word with your mate in the sky if you believe his blueprint has consigned us to ignorance and destruction.

Is the Wizard of Oz a mate of yours?

[Dorcus]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Is the Wizard of Oz a mate of yours?

No, I've never even met David Campese

[Gofer Blue]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Gofer - check your pms.

AZ City - please check your PM's!

[truthpaste]

Re: Charlie Kirk

Human intelligence has the capacity to reject evil and I believe our species will meet that goal.

Having recovered from your entire post, what in the history of the human race brought such a thought to your mind?

Feel free to refer to the facts as you provide your reason.....

20th Century (1900-1999): Roughly 187 million deaths, the highest of any century, largely due to World War I and World War II.
19th Century (1800-1899): An estimated 30-40 million deaths, with the 19th century being the only other period to see such a high toll of deaths from conflict. The Taiping Rebellion alone resulted in tens of millions of deaths, with the highest estimates placing it at around 30 million.
18th Century (1700-1799): The century experienced fewer conflicts and deaths compared to other centuries, with a total of around
2 to 5 million deaths. The largest and most deadly conflicts were the Seven Years' War and the Napoleonic Wars, which resulted in millions of deaths.
17th Century (1600-1699): The period saw a total of approximately 5 to 10 million deaths. The Thirty Years' War was the most devastating conflict, resulting in the loss of 500,000 to 1 million people.
16th Century (1500-1599): The century saw a high death toll of 1 to 5 million. The Thirty Years' War and the Thirty Years' War caused many deaths, which could be compared to the 30-40 million deaths of the previous century.