Another Brexit Bonus

[life on mars]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/global-markets-wrapup-1-2022-07-05/

Oh dear

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https://www.reuters.com/markets/euro...-1-2022-07-05/

Oh dear

oil prices drop eh

[life on mars]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Now the EU is worried about it's own inflation and trade issue great time to force them to fix the NI Protocls , as they won't deploy trade sanctions in these critical time of worry across the world and EU .. Truss of the Thatcher will love that gig ..

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[life on mars]

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Investments post Brexit in Wales yey

WORK on an alternative motor for electric vehicles that’s less harmful to the environment is to get underway in Wales with £1.8 million in support from car manufacturer Ford.

Caerphilly-based advanced research and development firm Deregallera will lead a project that will see it work with Cwmbran-based commercial brake manufacturer Meritor and academics at Cardiff University to design, develop and test a new low-carbon electric vehicle motor which uses fewer “rare earth” materials.

https://www.ey.com/en_uk/news/2022/06/the-uk-remains-europe-s-most-attractive-destination-for-financial-services-investment-but-the-gap-with-france-narrows-further

[Doucas]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Investments post Brexit in Wales yey

WORK on an alternative motor for electric vehicles that’s less harmful to the environment is to get underway in Wales with £1.8 million in support from car manufacturer Ford.

Caerphilly-based advanced research and development firm Deregallera will lead a project that will see it work with Cwmbran-based commercial brake manufacturer Meritor and academics at Cardiff University to design, develop and test a new low-carbon electric vehicle motor which uses fewer “rare earth” materials.


https://www.ey.com/en_uk/news/2022/0...arrows-further

Meanwhile we've got a £50 billion brexit bill and there are 4 hour queues in Dover.. oh and don't forget Ford left Bridgend recently. But yeah celebrate £1.8 million..

[jon1959]

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Meanwhile we've got a £50 billion brexit bill and there are 4 hour queues in Dover.. oh and don't forget Ford left Bridgend recently. But yeah celebrate £1.8 million..

Down to 4 hours? That's better than earlier - and better than tomorrow! All down to the Brexit border checks that had so little impact during Covid but are now showing their full power of disruption. Get Brexit Done!

[Dorcus]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Down to 4 hours? That's better than earlier - and better than tomorrow! All down to the Brexit border checks that had so little impact during Covid but are now showing their full power of disruption. Get Brexit Done!

Stiff upper lip and all that you snowflakes

We've got our blueish black passport back. Who wants to travel outside this sceptred isle anyway?

[JamesWales]

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Down to 4 hours? That's better than earlier - and better than tomorrow! All down to the Brexit border checks that had so little impact during Covid but are now showing their full power of disruption. Get Brexit Done!

The UK are blaming France, France are blaming Eurostar. The only people blaming Brexit are the Japanese WW2 fighters who still haven't given up arms.

Why do you guys insist on spreading misinformation? It's so weird. And before you say "bUt iT nEvEr hApPenD bEfoRe BrExIt!...It did, you just probably weren't paying attention.

2012

https://www.channel4.com/news/olympic-fears-over-heathrow-queues

2013

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2013/07/28/motorists-trapped-in-lengthy-gibraltar-border-queues/

2014

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/airports-chaos-as-it-glitch-hits-border-control-causing-massive-queues-9308640.html

2015

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/03/cross-channel-lorry-queue-delays-until-monday

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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The UK are blaming France, France are blaming Eurostar. The only people blaming Brexit are the Japanese WW2 fighters who still haven't given up arms.

Why do you guys insist on spreading misinformation? It's so weird.

According to Reuters: "Britain's departure from the European Union means passengers bound for France face enhanced checks by French officials."

[JamesWales]

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Should we listen to the Chief Executive of the Port of Dover, or @Tarquin39485FBPE ?

"The chief executive of the Port of Dover said being “let down” by poor resourcing at the French border was “immensely frustrating”.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/uk-travel-latest-dover-delays-queues-france-liz-truss-brexit-b1014249.html

[JamesWales]

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According to Reuters: "Britain's departure from the European Union means passengers bound for France face enhanced checks by French officials."

They stamp the passport now. But they opened and looked at the passports anyway. I've been trough customs and borders since. It literally takes a second longer if that.

Before or after brexit, there are still a myriad of other reasons that can cause issues; IT, transport, staff sickness, strikes, poor management, bad practices. These things happen. For people to knee-jerk blame something that happened several years and applies to all ports, all airports and eurostar, yet is clearly focused on one port route, is disingenuous.

And before anyone says.."what about airport queues?" it's the same across the States and Europe. Again, it just wasn't reported. For people who consider themselves so pro-european, they often don't follow the news from there very much..

https://time.com/6192903/why-air-travel-is-bad-now/

[jon1959]

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According to Reuters: "Britain's departure from the European Union means passengers bound for France face enhanced checks by French officials."

Careful. That is a prime example of what James calls misinformation.... that is any explanation of the Dover port chaos that hasn't come direct from Liz Truss or Natalie Elphicke.

[jon1959]

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Doug Bannister, Chief Executive, Port of Dover said: "Since the UK left the EU, we are subject to full passport checks. Before, all of our freight traffic would go through in about zero seconds and now it's 60 seconds to maybe up to 90 seconds per truck. All of that adds up.

"What we have done, as the Port of Dover, is install new infrastructure and put in new operational processes to make certain that the traffic can flow through as best as it can with the new control regimes that are in place.

"Now, we are reliant on other players to do their part to staff the booths.

"Well, we have had lots of good dialogue and we work well with French immigration police and they certainly have high attention on our operation down here. Ultimately, it comes down to their resourcing levels and we know resourcing around Europe and the world is tight these days.

"The European Entry Exit System (EES), the way it's currently thought through is that it will work well in an airport, but as of now, there is no technology, no process and nothing designed for vehicular traffic in a busy ferry terminal.

"This is something that is concerning us because if we don't get that right, everything will stop."

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2022-07-20/port-of-dover-installs-more-border-control-booths-in-attempt-to-reduce-delays

[JamesWales]

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No one doubts that changes have occured Jon. I appreciate you may not, but most people react to change positively and implement new systems to deal with it.

That doesn't change the fact that irrespective of being inside, or outside of the EU, that systems can (and do) still break down. If there aren't enough staff to look to passports then there aren't enough staff to look at passports, whether they are stamping them or not.

I just don't understand why you are so keen to spread mistruths when neither side of this dispute is blaming Brexit?

If this is down to Brexit, why isn't it happening at Portsmouth? At Plymouth? Hull? Folkestone? Felixtowe etc?

In two days we will still be outside the EU, but I am willing to bet that the queues will be largely gone - hence, the cause was not the thing that hasn't changed in those two days.

[jon1959]

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No one doubts that changes have occured Jon. I appreciate you may not, but most people react to change positively and implement new systems to deal with it.

That doesn't change the fact that irrespective of being inside, or outside of the EU, that systems can (and do) still break down. If there aren't enough staff to look to passports then there aren't enough staff to look at passports, whether they are stamping them or not.

I just don't understand why you are so keen to spread mistruths when neither side of this dispute is blaming Brexit?

If this is down to Brexit, why isn't it happening at Portsmouth? At Plymouth? Hull? Folkestone? Felixtowe etc?

In two days we will still be outside the EU, but I am willing to bet that the queues will be largely gone - hence, the cause was not the thing that hasn't changed in those two days.

I watched a string of TV interviews with French officials and politicians yesterday that all blamed Brexit. All describing in detail the scale of the additional checks required, the limits on expanding facilities at Dover, and the expectation that this particular bottleneck will be with us for several years more until technology, capacity or changes to processes can be introduced to mitigate it. There may have been some French border officials missing at the start of play yesterday but the traffic was still backing up once all the booths were fully staffed.