Another Brexit Bonus

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

"We are Great Britain and we will be getting Greater."

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Probably more realistic than this:

"We are not the envy of the world anymore," he added, "We are the crackpot aunty in the corner that everyone laughs at."

The guys twitter. He sounds like a man-toddler.

[Swiss Peter]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Probably more realistic than this:

"We are not the envy of the world anymore," he added, "We are the crackpot aunty in the corner that everyone laughs at."

The guys twitter. He sounds like a man-toddler.

Yeah, I don't much like his twitter style.

On the other hand, someone who has built a business which imports 2 million bottles of wine a year and supplies 300 outlets and tells a real world story of how damaging Brexit has been - versus some bloke that sits on his keyboard on CCMB ranting and throwing out inconclusive stats.

I'll take my own view on who the man-toddler is here.

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Yeah, I don't much like his twitter style.

On the other hand, someone who has built a business which imports 2 million bottles of wine a year and supplies 300 outlets and tells a real world story of how damaging Brexit has been - versus some bloke that sits on his keyboard on CCMB ranting and throwing out inconclusive stats.

I'll take my own view on who the man-toddler is here.

You will never struggle to find anecdotal evidence to back up an argument and no economy will always work for every person in every sector. There are equivalents of that guy in every country at every point in history.

That doesn't render official economic statistics irrelevent.

I'm sure you can see the difference.

[Swiss Peter]

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You will never struggle to find anecdotal evidence to back up an argument and no economy will always work for every person in every sector. There are equivalents of that guy in every country at every point in history.

That doesn't render official economic statistics irrelevent.

I'm sure you can see the difference.

Statistics are not irrelevant. But they are inconclusive if presented simply as a snapshot in time to try and prove a point, without full wider context. I think you have agreed that before.

Ok, you'll never struggle to find anecdotal evidence. This being the case, please present the stories from those people for whom Brexit has made their lives much easier. I think that's what people on this thread have been asking for from the beginning. Then a balanced view can be formed.

[jon1959]

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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/steve-morison-explains-cardiff-citys-24678731

Of Cardiff City's 14 signings to date, only one has been brought in from abroad.

The Bluebirds planned to exploit their European scouting network this summer, as revealed by WalesOnline earlier this year, and wanted to look at players in Germany, France and Holland specifically.

However, they have only tapped into the German market so far, bringing in Jamilu Collins, the Nigeria international from Paderborn SC who play in Bundesliga II. As we have seen from just one outing, it looks like the left-back will be quite the hit with the fans. You can read more about that here.

That transfer has seemingly worked out smoothly so far, so why, then, don't they tap into the foreign market to bring in more quality from abroad? Well, it's not quite as simple as that.

Due to Brexit, registration rules have changed. The FA, the Premier League and EFL implemented a new system in which players had to meet certain criteria to be eligible for a transfer from abroad.

Clubs are now not allowed to sign players freely from EU countries and must adhere to the Governing Body Endorsement (GBE) ruling which stipulates players must have the requisite 15 points to complete a transfer. To gain said points, players have to accrue a certain number of appearances, both senior and youth international appearances, the quality of the selling club and club appearances, based on domestic league and continental competition minutes.

Fortunately for Cardiff, Collins scraped through by a single point, owing to his exploits with Nigeria, but Steve Morison explained further just how difficult he found shopping in the European market this summer.

"The biggest problem with abroad is that they need a certain amount of points, they need 15 minimum," he explained. "He had his points because he’d played for Nigeria. He got his by a few other things and it all added up and I think he got in by one point.

"Some players you start looking and think, 'Oh, he's good', as a recruitment team. You look into it and you send all of the stuff over and then you find out he has only got 12 points so you can't do it.

"So it’s Brexit that’s caused it to be more difficult. Unless you’re signing from the top divisions, from the Bundesliga or Ligue 1 or Serie A, then it's a lot more difficult to get them over.

"He is the only one who kind of jumped off the page to us that we knew we could get. Even that took a while, that was going on for about four weeks. But I was really pleased with it and from the first day of pre-season we have been excited to see what he can do on the grass."

[Hilts]

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Restrictions of freedom of movement are what the Brexit voters wanted.

Of course the rich clubs wont be affected.

Just like society the wealthy will be fine.

[life on mars]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Brexit bonus with new rules on foreign players being allowed in, this hopefully expands the chances of home grown talent.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/steve-morison-explains-cardiff-citys-24678731?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

[ToTaL ITK]

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Brexit bonus with new rules on foreign players being allowed in, this hopefully expands the chances of home grown talent.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...paign=sharebar

How dare you bring football into erm! a football forum...anyway..brexit folk wanted to keep out the foreign scum..like the cheap labourers and the people holding up the care systems...but bloody love' em when they play footie. which is of course as we all know is a vital occupation

[the other bob wilson]

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Fair play, James. A weaker man would have given up trying to educate us all by now!

I’m sure we wouldn’t take it personally if he did give up mind.

[Swiss Peter]

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I’m sure we wouldn’t take it personally if he did give up mind.

I hope he doesn't.

It would be dull in here without the challenge.

It would be nice if we could have someone presenting that challenge in a less patronising and more compelling way, but we can't have everything!

[life on mars]

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I hope he doesn't.

It would be dull in here without the challenge.

It would be nice if we could have someone presenting that challenge in a less patronising and more compelling way, but we can't have everything!

At times do you think balanced arguments, replies or challenges are equally patronising the other way , we know they can both rude and personal

[the other bob wilson]

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https://twitter.com/scotfoodjames/status/1555249564663398401?s=21&t=3v5rhwN9zt1xsT3O1DbOxQ

[jon1959]

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https://twitter.com/scotfoodjames/st...zt1xsT3O1DbOxQ

First time I have seen that. Good grief!

[Dorcus]

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First time I have seen that. Good grief!

I still say the overwhelming majority of Brexiteers would be willing to accept all the project's practical failings as long as they've got their beloved Blue passport back and can avoid rubbing shoulders with Johnnie Foreigner.

[Swiss Peter]

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https://twitter.com/scotfoodjames/st...zt1xsT3O1DbOxQ

Those are the sunlit uplands! I did wonder what they were supposed to look like.