Another Brexit Bonus

[life on mars]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

You do get the feeling that people are preying Brexit doesnt develop into a positive ,driven by political views and dislike of certain politicians or parties, you would hope that people could celebrate success if that's the outcome.

Let's be fair though not one of us know if it be a success or failure , as this is a long journey , the one thing we can agree on its not been the devastation as some predicted , in fact some have seen welcome wage increases at the lower end of the pay scales and jobs like HGV drivers an there's jobs to be had.

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

You do get the feeling that people are preying Brexit doesnt develop into a positive ,driven by political views and dislike of certain politicians or parties, you would hope that people could celebrate success if that's the outcome.

Let's be fair though not one of us know if it be a success or failure , as this is a long journey , the one thing we can agree on its not been the devastation as some predicted , in fact some have seen welcome wage increases at the lower end of the pay scales and jobs like HGV drivers an there's jobs to be had.

This broadly is my views on it. I really think some don't want to see success. Generally those with more financial safety net I would suggest.

It's well past the time to move on

[ninian opinian]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Fantastic news. Go Brexit https://www.itv.com/news/2021-12-10/...ade-in-october

[Dorcus]

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Fantastic news. Go Brexit https://www.itv.com/news/2021-12-10/...ade-in-october

Well done to Boris and his sycophants yet again 👍

[Doucas]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

You do get the feeling that people are preying Brexit doesnt develop into a positive ,driven by political views and dislike of certain politicians or parties, you would hope that people could celebrate success if that's the outcome.

Let's be fair though not one of us know if it be a success or failure , as this is a long journey , the one thing we can agree on its not been the devastation as some predicted , in fact some have seen welcome wage increases at the lower end of the pay scales and jobs like HGV drivers an there's jobs to be had.

What planet are you on? People are against brexit because it's devastating to the economy (source - https://fullfact.org/europe/online-c...contributions/), this isn't an opinion, it's a stone cold fact.

So stop saying NoBoDy KnOwS HoW iT wIlL TuRn OuT because I can't think of one realistic scenario where it brings in benefits, don't forget next year we will see more consequences.

Honestly I look around at the people who voted for brexit and it's usually people who are either old (and generally clueless about how their generation have destroyed the economy for young people) or were in the retard class at school.

[JamesWales]

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What planet are you on? People are against brexit because it's devastating to the economy (source - https://fullfact.org/europe/online-c...contributions/), this isn't an opinion, it's a stone cold fact.

So stop saying NoBoDy KnOwS HoW iT wIlL TuRn OuT because I can't think of one realistic scenario where it brings in benefits, don't forget next year we will see more consequences.

Honestly I look around at the people who voted for brexit and it's usually people who are either old (and generally clueless about how their generation have destroyed the economy for young people) or were in the retard class at school.

Did you even read the article you posted as 'evidence'. Quote from the second paragraph

"While it’s difficult to put a single, definitive figure on the economic impact of Brexit, these claims don’t currently add up."

UK is currently outperforming our peers on most measures on official latest economic data. Do I need to repost this stuff again?!

It is too soon to form a clear opinion, especially with Covid, but to say Brexit is devastating the economy is frankly, plain wrong. Even if it is damaging (and the data doesnt suggest that but I'll accept it could be true in some cases) then you need a far more anodyne verb than 'devastating'.

I'm sure from other posts you are a rabidly anti-Thatcher too, so god knows why you now are so supportive of membership of a free-trading arrangement that is essentially Thatcherism on steroids.

Get a grip and realise it's nearly 2022 now, not 2016 or you'll just be even further left behind.

[life on mars]

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A lot of folk are now saying (including European modellers) that the UK will not have the predicted devastating turmoil we do need to move on and stop moaning .

[Dorcus]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

A lot of folk are now saying (including European modellers) that the UK will not have the predicted devastating turmoil we do need to move on and stop moaning .

A lot of folks say lots of things (in a folksy sort of way). That's all folks 👍

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

A lot of folks say lots of things (in a folksy sort of way). That's all folks ��

Yes, the Annual GDP growth rates for the UK and the EU up until Quarter three 2022 are significantly in the UK's favour.

https://tradingeconomics.com/forecast/gdp-annual-growth-rate?continent=europe

However, facts are always better than predictions, so we will wait and see.

In the meantime, I have them at hand for FBPE cultists.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Yes, the Annual GDP growth rates for the UK and the EU up until Quarter three 2022 are significantly in the UK's favour.

https://tradingeconomics.com/forecast/gdp-annual-growth-rate?continent=europe

However, facts are always better than predictions, so we will wait and see.

In the meantime, I have them at hand for FBPE cultists.

Weren’t our most recent growth figures (announced last week) described as disappointing?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1534113/UK-economy-growth-GDP-latest-data-Brexit-Britain-Office-National-Statistics-ONS-figures

[JamesWales]

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Weren’t our most recent growth figures (announced last week) described as disappointing?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/15...cs-ONS-figures

Yep, the latest estimates, especially the monthly data were disappointing, albeit on the back of what were generally very good before that. The general picture remains pretty positive, all things considered and compared to our peers.

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gdp-annual-growth-rate

No one should get carried away because that would be unhelpful, but more so, no one should paint a disastrous picture that is manifestly false.

Unemployment and wage growth data out tomorrow.

Inflation on wednesday - that won't be pretty.

The fun never ends does it!?

[life on mars]

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Think the key fact from everything posted from whatever politically leaning media outlet , there doesn't seem to be the awful disaster, thank god as that would have hurt a lot of people .

I voted to remain as it seemed less complex than leaving .

Wonder what a vote would deliver now ?

[Rjk]

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so is Brexit bad? or have we just handled covid worse than anyone else?

[life on mars]

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so is Brexit bad? or have we just handled covid worse than anyone else?

We don't know until we get out of Covid .

I suggest its remarkable to see where we are considering the doom and gloom fired out by many over Brexit and then Covid .

Is the country more resilient than we thought and were the right decisions made .

And I do wonder if the painful austerity measures applied due to financial crash has given us some wriggle room, although it did cause pain for a lot of working folk ??

[the other bob wilson]

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We don't know until we get out of Covid .

I suggest its remarkable to see where we are considering the doom and gloom fired out by many over Brexit and then Covid .

Is the country more resilient than we thought and were the right decisions made .

And I do wonder if the painful austerity measures applied due to financial crash has given us some wriggle room, although it did cause pain for a lot of working folk ??

It’s been claimed that it caused more than pain.

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/uk-austerity-since-2010-linked-to-tens-of-thousands-more-deaths-than-expected/