Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Dorcus]

Re: Coronavirus update

Sage scientist Linda Bauld says a further 50k people could die before this crisis is over. If that happens does anyone think the bumbling idiot will then decide it's time to resign? .........fat chance!

John McDonnell makes the salient point "After 100,000 have died, the reality is we have a Prime Minister critically unsuited to a time of crisis". It begs the question: what exactly is he suited for?

[the other bob wilson]

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Why does a Treasury decision stop WG from acting?

I told you in my first post on the subject, but I've finished with this discussion now because, as always with you, we'll just end up going round and round in circles.

[Heisenberg]

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if the issue was one of public health then WG should have made a decision regardless of the economic consequences. There was no reason WG couldn't have invoked a Welsh lockdown. It is possible to have a lockdown without HMT support. Its crazy to suggest otherwise.

That's your opinion (although I highly doubt it's your actual opinion).

What about the bit about the WAG not being able to legally close the border before those powers were granted in the Covid act?

Also, regarding the Stereophonics gig...

This is in the Coronavirus Act 2020:

'Powers regarding public gatherings and premises

The Act gives ministers, including in the devolved administrations, the power to restrict or prohibit gatherings or events, and the power to close or restrict access to premises. The minister can only use this power if they have made an official declaration that the virus constitutes a “serious and imminent” threat to public health, and that using the powers would either help to control the transmission of the virus, or would facilitate the most appropriate deployment of medical/emergency resources.'

Somebody please explain to me why that the act gave these powers to devolved ministers if they already had this power?

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Coronavirus update

Sage scientist Linda Bauld says a further 50k people could die before this crisis is over. If that happens does anyone think the bumbling idiot will then decide it's time to resign? .........fat chance!

John McDonnell makes the salient point "After 100,000 have died, the reality is we have a Prime Minister critically unsuited to a time of crisis". It begs the question: what exactly is he suited for?

Getting brexit done, even if it's in as shit a way as possible

[Former Labour leader]

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I told you in my first post on the subject, but I've finished with this discussion now because, as always with you, we'll just end up going round and round in circles.

Quite right Bob. Feedback is a highly intelligent guy, but has always got to be right.
Just going to talk about Barnsley for the rest of the day.

[Vindec]

Re: Coronavirus update

Sage scientist Linda Bauld says a further 50k people could die before this crisis is over. If that happens does anyone think the bumbling idiot will then decide it's time to resign? .........fat chance!

John McDonnell makes the salient point "After 100,000 have died, the reality is we have a Prime Minister critically unsuited to a time of crisis". It begs the question: what exactly is he suited for?

Never let a crisis go to waste. As if the Labour alternative could do any better. After McDonnel, Abbot and Corbyn we have Starmer who has flim flammed all over the place on for example closing the borders and education.

[Rjk]

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Never let a crisis go to waste. As if the Labour alternative could do any better. After McDonnel, Abbot and Corbyn we have Starmer who has flim flammed all over the place on for example closing the borders and education.

Of course they could have done better. We won't know whether they would have, but it is had to imagine how they could have been any worse.
They would have had much more scrutiny from the press as well.

[Heisenberg]

Re: Coronavirus update

Never let a crisis go to waste. As if the Labour alternative could do any better. After McDonnel, Abbot and Corbyn we have Starmer who has flim flammed all over the place on for example closing the borders and education.

I suggest that almost anybody else could have done a better job than Boris Johnson.

Scandal after scandal after scandal.

You can argue whether Labour's response would have been great, but to suggest it would have somehow been worse than this pile of human excrement is astonishing.

[Croesy Blue]

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Never let a crisis go to waste. As if the Labour alternative could do any better. After McDonnel, Abbot and Corbyn we have Starmer who has flim flammed all over the place on for example closing the borders and education.

How is this at all relevant?

[Hilts]

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Ah the old Corbyn , Abbott argument comes out.

[Dorcus]

Re: Coronavirus update

Never let a crisis go to waste. As if the Labour alternative could do any better. After McDonnel, Abbot and Corbyn we have Starmer who has flim flammed all over the place on for example closing the borders and education.

"Never let a crisis go to waste"!!! What a pathetic and hugely disrespectful response to the passing of 100,000 souls and the blood on this government's hands!

Assailing your political foes even though they had no control over the situation we now find ourselves in saddens me but I probably shouldn't have expected more from you even on this sombre occasion.

[lardy]

Re: Coronavirus update

Never let a crisis go to waste. As if the Labour alternative could do any better. After McDonnel, Abbot and Corbyn we have Starmer who has flim flammed all over the place on for example closing the borders and education.

I doubt any other cabinet, and I'm including Tory cabinets of old so this is not red v blue, would have wasted so many billions on contracts for their unqualified associates.

Jobs for the boys has been sickening, and probably criminal.

[Heisenberg]

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I doubt any other cabinet, and I'm including Tory cabinets of old so this is not red v blue, would have wasted so many billions on contracts for their unqualified associates.

Jobs for the boys has been sickening, and probably criminal.

Exactly. I wholeheartedly would have taken a Theresa May or a John Major (even a fecking David Cameron) govt. over these criminals.

[Croesy Blue]

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I doubt any other cabinet, and I'm including Tory cabinets of old so this is not red v blue, would have wasted so many billions on contracts for their unqualified associates.

Jobs for the boys has been sickening, and probably criminal.

Yep completely agree, I don't understand being so deep in support of a political party that anyone could defend this.

[Vindec]

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"Never let a crisis go to waste"!!! What a pathetic and hugely disrespectful response to the passing of 100,000 souls and the blood on this government's hands!

Assailing your political foes even though they had no control over the situation we now find ourselves in saddens me but I probably shouldn't have expected more from you even on this sombre occasion.

I was quoting the Labour Party's Education spokesperson, Kate Green. I agree it is hugely disrespectful, pathetic and idiotic. I quoted that because that is the kind of idiocy that has emerged from our opposition that many oh here support without question.. For reference:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/28/labour-mp-apologises-for-telling-activists-not-to-let-a-good-crisis-go-to-waste-13338820/

I am no fan of Johnson either but to think Her Majesty's opposition could do any better is speculative to say the least. In answer to another question I mentioned it because of the quote mentioned in my post.