Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Croesy Blue]

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Did you just post something from over a month ago to show how Wales is performing now?

We've started a lockdown and had a vaccine being rolled out since that article FFS

14th December so basically 2 months ago!

Some effort to try and make a point

[Rjk]

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14th December so basically 2 months ago!

Some effort to try and make a point

he'll be back soon with some statistics from the Spanish flu outbreak that are going to completely devastate you

[Hilts]

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That comes as a surprise. However, this comparison here

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55302591

shows Wales is performing far worse on every performance indicator and not far better as you indicate but if you have any statistical evidence to verify your view then I would like to see it.

Its now the 4th February. We are at rates last seen in October.

We are in a better place than England.

The way things are heading we could be under 100/100000 by the next review.

[Heisenberg]

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According to this statistical evidence for the seven days to 29th January 2021, every Welsh county was recording positive covid tests at a rate below the UK average.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map

Do you have any older evidence to back that up though... Perhaps a cave painting?

[Croesy Blue]

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Why are Wales only celebrating new year's eve now? England started 2021 almost 6 weeks ago!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-55192786

[Vindec]

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Do you have any older evidence to back that up though... Perhaps a cave painting?

It was the only evidence I could find to cover the pandemic as a whole and not just one issue in order to see where a justification for the statement that Wales was doing far better than England had originated. However, on vaccine rollout, the position at the 24 January is that England had vaccinated 79.7% first doses as opposed to 62.1% in Wales although there has probably been some catch up in Wales since then. Figures here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

However, I don't see from any of the statistics provided that Wales is doing "far" better than England as alleged. Marginally better on vaccine rollout on a 7 day rolling average per 100000 of the population according to the Peter Gillibrand figures but not far better. That was the point although the figures I provided earlier, though old, do not show Wales in a very good light..

[Tuerto]

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It was the only evidence I could find to cover the pandemic as a whole and not just one issue in order to see where a justification for the statement that Wales was doing far better than England had originated. However, on vaccine rollout, the position at the 24 January is that England had vaccinated 79.7% first doses as opposed to 62.1% in Wales although there has probably been some catch up in Wales since then. Figures here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

However, I don't see from any of the statistics provided that Wales is doing "far" better than England as alleged. Marginally better on vaccine rollout on a 7 day rolling average per 100000 of the population according to the Peter Gillibrand figures but not far better. That was the point although the figures I provided earlier, though old, do not show Wales in a very good light..

Your figures from December are completely irrelevant in this situation, and even 'Marginally better' based on the speed that the UK has rolled the vaccine out, is very good news indeed. I'm sure that you can concede that much.

[Croesy Blue]

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It was the only evidence I could find to cover the pandemic as a whole and not just one issue in order to see where a justification for the statement that Wales was doing far better than England had originated. However, on vaccine rollout, the position at the 24 January is that England had vaccinated 79.7% first doses as opposed to 62.1% in Wales although there has probably been some catch up in Wales since then. Figures here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

However, I don't see from any of the statistics provided that Wales is doing "far" better than England as alleged. Marginally better on vaccine rollout on a 7 day rolling average per 100000 of the population according to the Peter Gillibrand figures but not far better. That was the point although the figures I provided earlier, though old, do not show Wales in a very good light..

Backpeddling world champion

[goats]

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Its now the 4th February. We are at rates last seen in October.

We are in a better place than England.

The way things are heading we could be under 100/100000 by the next review.

There is a 7 day lag so we probably are already

[Vindec]

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Backpeddling world champion

The difference is that I answered the question by providing information; where did I backpedal? I was answering the Wales is doing "far" better question. There was no backpedaling (correct spelling).

[Croesy Blue]

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Changing the subject to spelling now!

[Vindec]

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Changing the subject to spelling now!

Apart from being juvenile, that's a pathetic response and doesn't answer the question asked as you well know. To be clear how do the figures show Wales is doing far better? They are doing well but the figures fluctuate from week to week on vaccine rollout. If that is inaccurate please elucidate instead of mocking a perfectly reasonable question. Our previous exchanges where you have been caught out for exaggerating, which you later admitted, is another example of your shallow responses.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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It was the only evidence I could find to cover the pandemic as a whole and not just one issue in order to see where a justification for the statement that Wales was doing far better than England had originated. However, on vaccine rollout, the position at the 24 January is that England had vaccinated 79.7% first doses as opposed to 62.1% in Wales although there has probably been some catch up in Wales since then. Figures here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

However, I don't see from any of the statistics provided that Wales is doing "far" better than England as alleged. Marginally better on vaccine rollout on a 7 day rolling average per 100000 of the population according to the Peter Gillibrand figures but not far better. That was the point although the figures I provided earlier, though old, do not show Wales in a very good light..

From yesterday.

https://gov.wales/slides-and-datasets-minister-health-and-social-services-coronavirus-briefing-3-february-2021-html

[Vindec]

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From yesterday.

https://gov.wales/slides-and-dataset...uary-2021-html

Thanks. That proves my point that Wales is not doing far better than England but far better than Scotland. Wales on a 7 day average between 26 January to 2 February is doing better than England but not far better. Prior to those dates England was doing marginally better but I have to admit that, despite a shaky start, Wales is now rolling out the vaccine well.

[Croesy Blue]

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What do you define as “far better”?

I’ve not even got a horse in the race but looking at that link wales have been doing significantly better than England since the 27th of January.

Unless you’ve never complained about wales being worse than England you can’t say they aren’t doing far better now.