Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Eric Cartman]

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260 dead between 5pm on the 26th and 5pm on the 27th. We are moving at some pace now, no wonder the government are building temporary hospitals across the country.

[jon1959]

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A medical fetish site says it has donated its entire stock of disposable scrubs to an NHS hospital that was “desperate” for supplies.

On Twitter, MedFetUK wrote:

We have been contacted this week by representatives of NHS procurement all over the country, trying to source basic protective equipment and clothing.

When we, a tiny company set up to serve a small section of the kink community, find ourselves being sought out as a last-resort supplier to our National Health Service in a time of crisis, something is seriously wrong. In fact, it’s scandalous.

Today we donated our entire stock of disposable scrubs to an NHS hospital. It was just a few sets, because we don't carry large stocks, but they were desperate, so we sent them free of charge.

We don't usually do politics on Twitter, but ....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/28/uk-coronavirus-live-testing-rolled-out-for-frontline-nhs-workers

[life on mars]

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Spain death rises after a lock down by rime minister Pedro Sánchez declared a state of emergency on 14 March, ordering people in the country to stay at home

[tell it like it is]

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260 dead between 5pm on the 26th and 5pm on the 27th. We are moving at some pace now, no wonder the government are building temporary hospitals across the country.

The issue is if the peak still occurs April or if we're hitting the peak ahead of expectations.

[Croesy Blue]

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Spain death rises after a lock down by rime minister Pedro Sánchez declared a state of emergency on 14 March, ordering people in the country to stay at home

You reach the peak after 2 weeks of isolation because that’s how long the incubation period is.

[delmbox]

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You reach the peak after 2 weeks of isolation because that’s how long the incubation period is.

Well done CB, now that you've told him, there are only 3 people left on earth who don't know this

[Croesy Blue]

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January 10th - 100 confirmed cases worldwide
March 29th - 700,000 confirmed cases

Stay isolated and safe everyone

[Croesy Blue]

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Those are confirmed cases too, in Italy, France, Spain and the U.K. experts are saying only 5-10% of cases are being confirmed

[BLUETIT]

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January 10th - 100 confirmed cases worldwide
March 29th - 700,000 confirmed cases

Stay isolated and safe everyone

Ya, don’t go to cafes miles away for a cup of tea/coffee/squash.

Better still, if you own a said cafe, either shut, as you’re not essential, or tell um to “get outta town”

STAY SAFE EVERYONE

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.

Looks like Trump has tacked back to health being a more immediate priority than wealth so I guess it's time for you to adapt your rhetoric to stay in step.

Last night, when he wasn't blaming New York health workers for the wholesale theft of tens of thousands of protective equipment, Trump gave two figures.

He said that the deaths of 100k Americans due to this virus would be a "good result" and that an additional 2.2 million Americans would have died if the country did not take the measures that it has. You (well most people) may take what Trump utters with a pinch of salt but it does at least spell out the health/wealth dilemma in terms where you might grasp when people are talking about its impact pre or post intervention and give all this flu comparisons the break it deserves!

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/490089-trump-says-social-distancing-guidelines-to-continue-through-end-of

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I was reading recently about how we process information and make decisions. In essence, we often jump to uninformed, instinctive initial opinions and beliefs about something and then set about filtering-out and dismissing any information that contradicts this belief whilst gathering anything that appears to support it.

We don’t actually use reasoning a lot of the time we just invent arguments to support out intuitive beliefs. It’s due to the way our brains have evolved into areas that manage automatic and controlled thought processes, which are sometimes in conflict.

So it’s really just the way we are and we often don’t realise we’re doing it but it can be observed. It’s probably why you very rarely see people acknowledging they’ve shifted their views in these discussions and why we get so frustrated with others who just can’t see our own point of view. This isn’t just some people, we all have this tendency. So basically we’re wasting our time here

That's how religion exists. Indoctrinate someone at an early age and they can happily dismiss science where it is convenient and put their beliefs in deities for which there is no evidence and which came about when mankind didn't know about evolution, microbes, electricity, atoms and a million other things. They see no dichotomy between having advanced medical treatment and praying to their god to allow them to survive. The same god let it happen to them in the first place. I remember seeing a little old lady on TV who survived an earthquake and she said that she thanked 'God' for her survival. Sadly and ironically, many other people (most of them far younger) perished who her god deigned not to spare.
No god seems to have made an appearance during the Holocaust or during devastating events such as the Bubonic Plague or to put a stop to wars that have killed millions of people. In the case of the Abrahamist god perhaps he is waiting for a leper to come along.

[Croesy Blue]

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I was reading recently about how we process information and make decisions. In essence, we often jump to uninformed, instinctive initial opinions and beliefs about something and then set about filtering-out and dismissing any information that contradicts this belief whilst gathering anything that appears to support it.

We don’t actually use reasoning a lot of the time we just invent arguments to support out intuitive beliefs. It’s due to the way our brains have evolved into areas that manage automatic and controlled thought processes, which are sometimes in conflict.

So it’s really just the way we are and we often don’t realise we’re doing it but it can be observed. It’s probably why you very rarely see people acknowledging they’ve shifted their views in these discussions and why we get so frustrated with others who just can’t see our own point of view. This isn’t just some people, we all have this tendency. So basically we’re wasting our time here

When I first heard about it I was convinced it was nothing more than flu and it took until everything started happening in Italy before I reconsidered that. So this definitely happenes, and we are definitely all guilty of it.

[tell it like it is]

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When I first heard about it I was convinced it was nothing more than flu and it took until everything started happening in Italy before I reconsidered that. So this definitely happenes, and we are definitely all guilty of it.

Out of interest, was that view shaped by the initial claims about the nature of the virus, ie China's insistence it couldn't be spread person to person?

[Croesy Blue]

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Out of interest, was that view shaped by the initial claims about the nature of the virus, ie China's insistence it couldn't be spread person to person?

Just from the death rate and the symptoms, it seemed to be killing only old people at a lower rate than normal flu.

I thought the lockdowns were an over reaction and something that could only happen in China.

Couldn't have been more wrong on both counts.

I didn't read anything about it not being able to spread, all I can remember is the mad masks they were making because masks had ran out straight away.

[Croesy Blue]

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Dominic Cummings is suspected to have it now.