Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Hilts]

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I agree with much of this. Mistakes have been made, but on the other hand, all governments are learning as they go along. I'm unsure what you mean about the government's chief advisor who shouldn't be allowed to remain in post. If you are referring to Patrick Valance or Chris Whitty my view is that your opinion is unfair. Indeed their doom and gloom predictions wouldn't have been far off the mark had the government not reacted by closing things down. If you are referring to Dido Harding then you have a point but her job is a very difficult one.

The money being paid to consultants is obscene but that is how much these guys charge. The suggestion by the opposition that local authorities should be more in control with their local knowledge sounds sensible but they haven't the staff and would probably end up employing the same consultants the government has employed.

When the inevitable Inquiry happens those who look at the errors made will not be kind but dealing with issues in hindsight is not reality.

It is all very difficult as you acknowledge.

No sorry I meant Cummings not Whitty.

[Vindec]

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I agree with that 100%.

[surge]

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Adherence and willingness to follow restrictions diminishes each time it’s repeated. I hope this is incorporated when they weigh up the “cost-benefit” from fire-breakers.

Honesty, clarity and consistency is what’s needed from government. People have sacrificed a lot already.

https://twitter.com/hughes_eilir

#Covid19: Melbourne
" four critical pillars in Australia's determined response to Covid-19: closure of international borders, "uniformly good" testing in all states , contact tracing, and a compliant community that has embraced distancing protocols."

https://twitter.com/BWDDPH/status/1320991211679830016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzB-WkR8eNQ A BBC 4 mins video on Sweden's approach: consistency leading to longer term perspective and so guidance is easy to follow, trust in the guidance of need to social distance and compliance with this.

Different strategies but each seem to be saying at least part of the same thing now. A consistent, clear message needed; social distancing is needed; and a community response which is happy to act this way as one. Arguably, Wales had this earlier on in the year (mid-April onwards) but things have become messier since.

Tier 1.5 being introduced into England today is possibly a step backwards from consistency, clarity and easy to follow measures.

[Vindec]

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Tier 1.5 being introduced into England today is possibly a step backwards from consistency, clarity and easy to follow measures.

I don't think the government are introducing a new tier. Wasn't that the Bristol mayor who is introducing a Tier 1 plus?

[the other bob wilson]

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R rate over2 in parts of southern England;-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/29/covid-has-hit-critical-stage-in-england-research-finds

[Hilts]

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Abercynon again.

Its the pubs and customers who are doing the correct thing I feel sorry for.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/no-face-masks-customers-leaving-19152674

[LeningradCowboy]

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/national-lockdowns-should-be-backup-plan-on-covid-says-who-envoy

National lockdowns should be used only as a “reserve” measure to control coronavirus, according to the World Health Organization’s special envoy on Covid.

[Rjk]

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21 deaths today, they are undeniably on the way up now.
Considering they were in the 1s or 2s when the second lockdown was announced it could be that they've made a good call here

[Rjk]

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This graph, showing hospital admissions is pretty concerning, quickly approaching spring levels.

[Welshcake.]

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This graph, showing hospital admissions is pretty concerning, quickly approaching spring levels.

Have you got a link or a bigger graph?

[Welshcake.]

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Have you got a link or a bigger graph?

Never mind quoting it has made it bigger

Here's a link for anyone interested:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection?fbclid=IwAR3koAuY8HG1Rjd_rhmzk7ruxrAJIdp-9h1PlqwyY1E-ptYkO7dUa9Gm3Qk#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary

[Rjk]

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Have you got a link or a bigger graph?

https://twitter.com/PublicHealthW/status/1321814062196527104?s=20

[xsnaggle]

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I'm beginning to think nothing anyone does is going to stop this until they find a vaccine or two.
It hardly bears thinking about.

[Hilts]

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I'm beginning to think nothing anyone does is going to stop this until they find a vaccine or two.
It hardly bears thinking about.

Its not going to. Some of the latest reports on vaccines are not pointing to a game changer any time soon either.

Johnson though has promised 10m tests a day.

That will allow some sort of normality before a vaccine.

Im suprised he isnt being questioned about this. If its more of his bullshit then the Tories need be removing him along with his entire front bench.

[xsnaggle]

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Its not going to. Some of the latest reports on vaccines are not pointing to a game changer any time soon either.

Johnson though has promised 10m tests a day.

That will allow some sort of normality before a vaccine.

Im suprised he isnt being questioned about this. If its more of his bullshit then the Tories need be removing him along with his entire front bench.

They said on monday they were "on target" to acheive it. That is the capacity to analyse them, not collect them.
But either way I'll believe it when it happens,