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  • #76
    Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

    Originally posted by goats View Post
    Sure it’s a very complex thing, not saying I agree with him in any way. Reckons they were booing the method of delivery, the messaging etc...they’ve voted for a black player of the year 5 times in last 10 he says. Have a listen
    I'll give it a go :thumbup:

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    • #77
      Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

      Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
      I'll give it a go :thumbup:
      Don’t agree with everything says, he often blames footballs authorities for stuff, this aswell. He’s pretty astute though.

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      • #78
        Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

        Originally posted by goats View Post
        Don’t agree with everything says, he often blames footballs authorities for stuff, this aswell. He’s pretty astute though.
        I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to work out why they were booing but I also think there are a lot of excuses being made by and for them.

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        • #79
          Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

          QPR taking the knee against Millwall

          QPR director of football Les Ferdinand previously said the action had become diluted; QPR boss Mark Warburton says its the right thing to do; PFA has urged Millwall to identify those who booed before Derby game

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          • #80
            Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

            Originally posted by goats View Post
            Sure it’s a very complex thing, not saying I agree with him in any way. Reckons they were booing the method of delivery, the messaging etc...they’ve voted for a black player of the year 5 times in last 10 he says. Have a listen
            I know it's not your point, but people do that doublethink all the time. "Can't stand English people, my daughter in law is English but she's different"

            It's probably pretty easy to recognise a black player as being the best at your club, but still have stone age views about black people in general.

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            • #81
              Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

              Originally posted by lardy View Post
              I know it's not your point, but people do that doublethink all the time. "Can't stand English people, my daughter in law is English but she's different"

              It's probably pretty easy to recognise a black player as being the best at your club, but still have stone age views about black people in general.
              There's also a thing about black people having their place, so even racists see them as a performer for them and justify it that way.

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              • #82
                Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

                Originally posted by goats View Post
                Sure it’s a very complex thing, not saying I agree with him in any way. Reckons they were booing the method of delivery, the messaging etc...they’ve voted for a black player of the year 5 times in last 10 he says. Have a listen
                I think a lot of people are making excuses for them that Millwall don't deserve. For me, the idea that they were booing the method is laughable and becomes even more so considering their recent fine for racist chanting

                Also as lardy says just because they like a black player doesn't really mean anything. Racism isn't a rational viewpoint and you see people engaging in all sorts of mental gymnastics to try and justify it "he's different, he's one of the good ones" etc

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                • #83
                  Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

                  I would applaud in solidarity. The apologists have no argument. It’s racism, pure and simple. The type of people who will back the Millwall fans will leave you in no doubt which side of morality you stand.

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                  • #84
                    Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

                    Millwall have outlined a series of anti-discrimination measures and announced that their players will also stand arm-in-arm with Tuesday’s visitors to the Den, QPR


                    Players from Queens Park Rangers have asked to change the club’s policy on taking a knee and will now perform the gesture against Millwall on Tuesday in what manager Mark Warburton described as a show of “solidarity” after booing at the Den on Saturday.

                    In September Les Ferdinand – the only black director of football in the senior English game – defended the club’s decision for players to no longer take a knee because the gesture had become “little more than good PR”. But after the decision of some home supporters to boo Millwall and Derby players when they took a knee before the 1-0 victory for Wayne Rooney’s side at the weekend was heavily criticised by anti-racism campaigners, Warburton revealed that his players’ request to reverse the decision for their trip to south-east London had been granted.

                    “In light of certain events, we’ll stand solidly behind the cause and our players will take a knee,” Warburton said. “Tomorrow night we will show solidarity because we will not tolerate any form of discrimination. It’s the right thing to do, everyone can see that. The players have come to me and told me their thoughts and I absolutely agree with them.”

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                    • #85
                      Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

                      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                      https://www.theguardian.com/football...y-after-booing

                      Players from Queens Park Rangers have asked to change the club’s policy on taking a knee and will now perform the gesture against Millwall on Tuesday in what manager Mark Warburton described as a show of “solidarity” after booing at the Den on Saturday.

                      In September Les Ferdinand – the only black director of football in the senior English game – defended the club’s decision for players to no longer take a knee because the gesture had become “little more than good PR”. But after the decision of some home supporters to boo Millwall and Derby players when they took a knee before the 1-0 victory for Wayne Rooney’s side at the weekend was heavily criticised by anti-racism campaigners, Warburton revealed that his players’ request to reverse the decision for their trip to south-east London had been granted.

                      “In light of certain events, we’ll stand solidly behind the cause and our players will take a knee,” Warburton said. “Tomorrow night we will show solidarity because we will not tolerate any form of discrimination. It’s the right thing to do, everyone can see that. The players have come to me and told me their thoughts and I absolutely agree with them.”
                      Well done QPR and well done Spurs fans yesterday for roundly applauding during the taking of the knee, something we must do when we’re allowed back in to show the idiots amongst our support that we won’t have bigotry at Cardiff City.

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                      • #86
                        Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

                        Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                        Well done QPR and well done Spurs fans yesterday for roundly applauding during the taking of the knee, something we must do when we’re allowed back in to show the idiots amongst our support that we won’t have bigotry at Cardiff City.
                        This gesture needs an end date or it will lose its impact and get stale. In Saturday's QPR v Huddersfield game 5 QPR players took a knee and 6 did not. They have agreed to all take it ahead of the Millwall game tomorrow. The Telegraph reports that QPR will take a knee only until January when a 'comprehensive anti-discrimination strategy will be announced'. I thought we already had one 'Kick it Out'

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                        • #87
                          Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

                          Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                          This gesture needs an end date or it will lose its impact and get stale. In Saturday's QPR v Huddersfield game 5 QPR players took a knee and 6 did not. They have agreed to all take it ahead of the Millwall game tomorrow. The Telegraph reports that QPR will take a knee only until January when a 'comprehensive anti-discrimination strategy will be announced'. I thought we already had one 'Kick it Out'
                          Why does it need an end date? What about if in 2 or 3 years from now some little kid (or anyone for that matter) sees it and asks what it's for?

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                          • #88
                            Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

                            Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                            This gesture needs an end date or it will lose its impact and get stale. In Saturday's QPR v Huddersfield game 5 QPR players took a knee and 6 did not. They have agreed to all take it ahead of the Millwall game tomorrow. The Telegraph reports that QPR will take a knee only until January when a 'comprehensive anti-discrimination strategy will be announced'. I thought we already had one 'Kick it Out'
                            It can end when racism is no more. Seems fair.

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                            • #89
                              Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

                              Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
                              It can end when racism is no more. Seems fair.
                              :thumbup:

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                              • #90
                                Re: BLM - Will you boo ?

                                I see we have 4 yeses now. Be nice to hear their rationale.

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