Loan Report

[jon1959]

Until Loramski pulls his finger out we will have to rely on the club and Wales Online's finest to keep up to date:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-citys-13-man-loan-28578202

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/loan-report-05022024

The usual mix of the good, the bad and the ugly.

The main positives seem to be: Isaak Davies, Ryotaro Tsunoda, Eli King, Tom Davies and Ebou Adams.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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Oof - two of our defenders in a 0-5 at home. Had a look at a Dunfermline forum but no stick for Fagan-Walcott and Benjamin, although one said "the new defender" played well last week but wasn't really suited at playing out from the back (their fans don't like it either) but not sure if that's F-W or not. Benjamin "was hung out to dry" by the manager according to one, and the whole team is too inexperienced for the trouble they're in, so could be a hard lesson for both.

[Loramski]

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Until Loramski pulls his finger out we will have to rely on the club and Wales Online's finest to keep up to date:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-citys-13-man-loan-28578202

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/loan-report-05022024

The usual mix of the good, the bad and the ugly.

The main positives seem to be: Isaak Davies, Ryotaro Tsunoda, Eli King, Tom Davies and Ebou Adams.

Come on, what can I do? I explained before on here why the Loan Watch office got closed down. These things happen, it was an honest mistake and surely it wasn't the first time a 7-year-old has been sent an anal hoop-la set instead of Rhys Healey's autograph but the parents still won't let it go. I'll speak to them again but in the meantime I'm happy to pass the baton on to you.

Hopefully, this can turn into a long running thread to the end of the season. It's trickier than it was to keep up with all the loan moves, outside of the livescore/transfermarkt type info; regional media seems to have been cut back over the years and there are often subscription issues when you do find something. If people come across links like yours, or find stuff on other forums as BoA has, then stick them on here. Early days for a lot of these loans but it'll be interesting to see how they progress.

One footnote to the info you two have already provided, Tom Davies started tonight for Kilmarnock but was replaced at half-time by Matty Kennedy. Small world.

[Cyncoed Slumdog]

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Come on, what can I do? I explained before on here why the Loan Watch office got closed down. These things happen, it was an honest mistake and surely it wasn't the first time a 7-year-old has been sent an anal hoop-la set instead of Rhys Healey's autograph but the parents still won't let it go. I'll speak to them again but in the meantime I'm happy to pass the baton on to you.

Sorry to hear about your unfortunate circumstances. Has Velikonja House been sold or are you hoping to continue using it for football related purposes.

[Dembe]

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Anyone that wants to see the basics can download Flashscore app (they have a website too)

Cardiff City > Transfers > Departures and it will show a list of the players. You can click the relevant player and it will show you stats like the opponent, minutes played, goals and assists etc. Some get ratings but not all.

*Disclaimer* It is ok to follow the link provided in the thread, I am merely suggesting a different way of checking up on players for those interested, please nobody be offended.

[City123]

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Sorry to hear about your unfortunate circumstances. Has Velikonja House been sold or are you hoping to continue using it for football related purposes.

I heard it burned down in mysterious circumstances

[Loramski]

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Anyone that wants to see the basics can download Flashscore app (they have a website too)

Cardiff City > Transfers > Departures and it will show a list of the players. You can click the relevant player and it will show you stats like the opponent, minutes played, goals and assists etc. Some get ratings but not all.

*Disclaimer* It is ok to follow the link provided in the thread, I am merely suggesting a different way of checking up on players for those interested, please nobody be offended.

That's a good site, thanks. Like I said though, the issue is trying to get the little bits of info behind the minutes played (or not played) that tell us more and give us a better impression of how a player is doing and whether they might make it as a first-teamer here. Ratings are a big help but, as we know from walesonline, not always reliable.

The whole thing is a bit of a lottery anyway. I did Loan Watch on here for around 3 seasons but I can't think of any player I covered who came back to be a regular for us (Ralls' loan spell was before, Wintle and McGuinness after). Ajayi and Ben Wilson did well for themselves but not here. Mark Harris probably came closest to being a regular and yet his three loan spells were all underwhelming whereas someone like Oshilaja did really well out on loan but never got a sniff here. So hard to judge who's going to make it.

A little example of that is this interview with Malachi Fagan-Walcott. He's come from Spurs, Mourinho seemed to rate him but he got a couple of injuries and was released. He's played two lots of 90 minutes on loan, which is encouraging, and you're thinking this guy could make it. But the first thing he says here, on his arrival at Dunfermline, is that he wants to put his name out there. That suggests to me that we're planning on releasing him or am I missing something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXCWkA4TB7U

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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That's a good site, thanks. Like I said though, the issue is trying to get the little bits of info behind the minutes played (or not played) that tell us more and give us a better impression of how a player is doing and whether they might make it as a first-teamer here. Ratings are a big help but, as we know from walesonline, not always reliable.

The whole thing is a bit of a lottery anyway. I did Loan Watch on here for around 3 seasons but I can't think of any player I covered who came back to be a regular for us (Ralls' loan spell was before, Wintle and McGuinness after). Ajayi and Ben Wilson did well for themselves but not here. Mark Harris probably came closest to being a regular and yet his three loan spells were all underwhelming whereas someone like Oshilaja did really well out on loan but never got a sniff here. So hard to judge who's going to make it.

A little example of that is this interview with Malachi Fagan-Walcott. He's come from Spurs, Mourinho seemed to rate him but he got a couple of injuries and was released. He's played two lots of 90 minutes on loan, which is encouraging, and you're thinking this guy could make it. But the first thing he says here, on his arrival at Dunfermline, is that he wants to put his name out there. That suggests to me that we're planning on releasing him or am I missing something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXCWkA4TB7U

WOL have said MFW is almost certain to leave at the end of the season

[Loramski]

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WOL have said MFW is almost certain to leave at the end of the season

And I'm sure that's the case for a lot of these lads. It almost seems pointless to be poring over minutes played and other stats when decisions have already been made on some, if not most, of their futures.

You never know though, I'm sure Mark Harris was nearly out the door after his third loan finished early but the penny suddenly seemed to drop with him when he came back. His work rate and attitude improved and he went on to play nearly a hundred games for us but he's the exception rather than the rule.

[Loramski]

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I heard it burned down in mysterious circumstances

That insurance job stuff was just a conspiracy theory, are you Donald Trump or something? A Chinese lantern happened to fly in through an open window on the night I was keeping some hay there for a farmer I know. That's hardly suspicious is it? And I've no idea what happened to the statue of Velikonja that was in the foyer, before you ask. It must have melted in the fire.

[Rjk]

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That insurance job stuff was just a conspiracy theory, are you Donald Trump or something? A Chinese lantern happened to fly in through an open window on the night I was keeping some hay there for a farmer I know. That's hardly suspicious is it? And I've no idea what happened to the statue of Velikonja that was in the foyer, before you ask. It must have melted in the fire.

I hope that the volumes containing the explanation of the Belgian Playoff system were t lost on the blaze, as we may well need to refer to them at the business end of the season

[Loramski]

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I hope that the volumes containing the explanation of the Belgian Playoff system were t lost on the blaze, as we may well need to refer to them at the business end of the season

They all went up I'm afraid, I think that was the main reason it took eight hours to put the fire out.

Tsunoda, Ojo and Isaak Davies are in for a shock come the end of the season. They won't know if Kortrijk have qualified for the Europa League or been relegated. Or both.

[Kitman]

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That WOL site is just utter rubbish.

Keeps on scrolling back upto the top, constantly inserting ads and pushing the content you were reading downwards god knows where.

Scrolling down to chase the article you are trying to read invariabley results in accidentally clicking on a stupid advert about some stupid crap

And now, thrown into the bargain, after it finished loading it throws an error and blocks the page

Absolute garbage

[splott parker]

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That WOL site is just utter rubbish.

Keeps on scrolling back upto the top, constantly inserting ads and pushing the content you were reading downwards god knows where.

Scrolling down to chase the article you are trying to read invariabley results in accidentally clicking on a stupid advert about some stupid crap

And now, thrown into the bargain, after it finished loading it throws an error and blocks the page

Absolute garbage

Don’t rate it then?

[Jimmy the Jock]

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That WOL site is just utter rubbish.

Keeps on scrolling back upto the top, constantly inserting ads and pushing the content you were reading downwards god knows where.

Scrolling down to chase the article you are trying to read invariabley results in accidentally clicking on a stupid advert about some stupid crap

And now, thrown into the bargain, after it finished loading it throws an error and blocks the page

Absolute garbage

A fair description of the Belgian play off system.