Loan Report

[splott parker]

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Ah, Simic is injured according to WOL, quoting Kortrijk's website.

Splinters in the arse from the bench perhaps

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Splinters in the arse from the bench perhaps

That does sound painful!

[jon1959]

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https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/24749991.york-city-reportedly-agree-fee-cardiff-citys-malachi-fagan-walcott/

Apologies - just seen the separate thread on this.

[Loramski]

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A disappointing weekend for our loaned out players overall. Another assist for Malachi Fagan-Walcott in a 6-2 win for York but with talks still ongoing about making the move permanent it looks like his time as a regular fixture in this thread may be coming to an end. Elsewhere, no game for Kieron Evans' Newport and no pitch time for Ryan Wintle or Raheem Conte. Roko Simic missed Kortrijk's 3-1 win yesterday and Josh Beecher will be cup-tied for tomorrow's Welsh League Cup semi with TNS. Stevenage and Cheltenham both got knocked out of the FA Cup today, Eli King came on for 16 minutes against Mansfield while Joel Colwill played the 90 minutes against Salford but wasn't at his best.

So we're crying out for a knight in shining armour to save this week's loan report, someone to 'lift the fallen, restore the broken and heal the hurting'. If only. But wait a minute - who's this coming over the hill? It cant be? Surely not? It is you know, Ewan Griffiths is back to claim his rightful place in goal for Plymouth Parkway's Southern Premier League South team. Hurrah and huzzah. Not only that but he kept a clean sheet in a 0-0 draw at Gosport today with a couple of big saves in the second half, including one with four minutes left to secure the point. Suck on that, Hollywood.

[NinianKnight]

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A disappointing weekend for our loaned out players overall. Another assist for Malachi Fagan-Walcott in a 6-2 win for York but with talks still ongoing about making the move permanent it looks like his time as a regular fixture in this thread may be coming to an end. Elsewhere, no game for Kieron Evans' Newport and no pitch time for Ryan Wintle or Raheem Conte. Roko Simic missed Kortrijk's 3-1 win yesterday and Josh Beecher will be cup-tied for tomorrow's Welsh League Cup semi with TNS. Stevenage and Cheltenham both got knocked out of the FA Cup today, Eli King came on for 16 minutes against Mansfield while Joel Colwill played the 90 minutes against Salford but wasn't at his best.

So we're crying out for a knight in shining armour to save this week's loan report, someone to 'lift the fallen, restore the broken and heal the hurting'. If only. But wait a minute - who's this coming over the hill? It cant be? Surely not? It is you know, Ewan Griffiths is back to claim his rightful place in goal for Plymouth Parkway's Southern Premier League South team. Hurrah and huzzah. Not only that but he kept a clean sheet in a 0-0 draw at Gosport today with a couple of big saves in the second half, including one with four minutes left to secure the point. Suck on that, Hollywood.

Brilliant stuff

[Loramski]

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One piece of good news in a weather-hit weekend is that after a meeting of the Safety Advisory Group, which included South Wales Police and Cardiff Council, it was decided to let this week's loan report go ahead. They took some persuading but common sense prevailed in the end. Just don't get hit by falling debris while you're reading this or I'll never hear the last of it.

Not much to report from today's games, only Joel Colwill got a start with Ryan Wintle coming on as a sub for Millwall. A combination of injury, postponements and squad rotation kept everyone one else out of action. Luke Pearce is fit and back training with us but can't play for our under-21s or Sligo, apparently his loan spell there doesn't end until January even though their season ended last month. What's that about?

Some midweek action to catch up on though. Joel Colwill played then too in a decent week for Cheltenham. They were beating leaders Port Vale until conceding an injury-time equaliser on Tuesday and were winning 2-1 at third placed Doncaster today before conceding a 75th minute leveller. Too many draws but they're on a good run and Joel is playing a full part in that. I haven't seen him being called a number 10 but that seems to be the position he occupies there rather than the central midfielder I saw him as here. Tom Sang was playing for Port Vale in the week, 21 appearances for him so far this season after 48 last so he seems to have settled well there.

Kieron Evans played for Newport in the week as they did a reverse-Cheltenham and came from behind to snatch a late equaliser from the spot in a 2-2 draw at Wimbledon.

The movable object met the resistible force on Tuesday as Stevenage and Northampton played each other. Two sides out of form and a 0-0 draw looked like being the outcome until Eli King came on with 5 minutes to go, he soon set up Dan Kemp for the first as Stevenage ran out 2-0 winners. Stats don't tell the whole story but as Stevenage had 77% possession, led the shot count 18-1, the corner count 14-2 and had forty touches in the opposition box compared to Northampton's two, I'd say they probably just shaded it and deserved the win. Things not quite working out for Eli there so far but hopefully his assist will lead to an upturn.

[the other bob wilson]

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One piece of good news in a weather-hit weekend is that after a meeting of the Safety Advisory Group, which included South Wales Police and Cardiff Council, it was decided to let this week's loan report go ahead. They took some persuading but common sense prevailed in the end. Just don't get hit by falling debris while you're reading this or I'll never hear the last of it.

Not much to report from today's games, only Joel Colwill got a start with Ryan Wintle coming on as a sub for Millwall. A combination of injury, postponements and squad rotation kept everyone one else out of action. Luke Pearce is fit and back training with us but can't play for our under-21s or Sligo, apparently his loan spell there doesn't end until January even though their season ended last month. What's that about?

Some midweek action to catch up on though. Joel Colwill played then too in a decent week for Cheltenham. They were beating leaders Port Vale until conceding an injury-time equaliser on Tuesday and were winning 2-1 at third placed Doncaster today before conceding a 75th minute leveller. Too many draws but they're on a good run and Joel is playing a full part in that. I haven't seen him being called a number 10 but that seems to be the position he occupies there rather than the central midfielder I saw him as here. Tom Sang was playing for Port Vale in the week, 21 appearances for him so far this season after 48 last so he seems to have settled well there.

Kieron Evans played for Newport in the week as they did a reverse-Cheltenham and came from behind to snatch a late equaliser from the spot in a 2-2 draw at Wimbledon.

The movable object met the resistible force on Tuesday as Stevenage and Northampton played each other. Two sides out of form and a 0-0 draw looked like being the outcome until Eli King came on with 5 minutes to go, he soon set up Dan Kemp for the first as Stevenage ran out 2-0 winners. Stats don't tell the whole story but as Stevenage had 77% possession, led the shot count 18-1, the corner count 14-2 and had forty touches in the opposition box compared to Northampton's two, I'd say they probably just shaded it and deserved the win. Things not quite working out for Eli there so far but hopefully his assist will lead to an upturn.

Watched a few minutes of a Port Vale game about three weeks ago and Tom Sang seemed to be one of the defenders in a back three - not sure if that is how they usually play, but I think he'd be pretty good in that position in League Two.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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That's a very odd situation with Luke Pearce.

Good to hear that Tom Sang's doing well.

[Loramski]

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Watched a few minutes of a Port Vale game about three weeks ago and Tom Sang seemed to be one of the defenders in a back three - not sure if that is how they usually play, but I think he'd be pretty good in that position in League Two.

He's a funny one. When he first came here I couldn't work out if he was a wide man or a number 10 but it turned out I wasn't even warm. This article from 2018 has him down as a defensive midfielder, central defender or full back at United so it wouldn't surprise me if you're right about his position now.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tom-sang-man-utd-wiki-15311775

My eldest wanted to see him in centre mid here but he didn't make the most of his few chances in that position. I thought he had a chance of making it as a full back/wing back but he got exposed against Leeds in those cup games and that was it for him here. 25 now, I can't really see him getting much further than League 1 or 2 but if can settle in one position and specialise there then you never know. Good luck to him anyway.

I missed your Luke Pearce post in the Academy thread. I'd have answered it there instead of mentioning him here if I'd seen it sooner. I guess you'd seen this Walesonline article too. That he can't play for our under-21s till January is dealt with in a matter of fact way but it makes no sense to me. Do you know any more about it?

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/city-focus-luke-pearce-reflects-loan-experience

[the other bob wilson]

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He's a funny one. When he first came here I couldn't work out if he was a wide man or a number 10 but it turned out I wasn't even warm. This article from 2018 has him down as a defensive midfielder, central defender or full back at United so it wouldn't surprise me if you're right about his position now.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tom-sang-man-utd-wiki-15311775

My eldest wanted to see him in centre mid here but he didn't make the most of his few chances in that position. I thought he had a chance of making it as a full back/wing back but he got exposed against Leeds in those cup games and that was it for him here. 25 now, I can't really see him getting much further than League 1 or 2 but if can settle in one position and specialise there then you never know. Good luck to him anyway.

I missed your Luke Pearce post in the Academy thread. I'd have answered it there instead of mentioning him here if I'd seen it sooner. I guess you'd seen this Walesonline article too. That he can't play for our under-21s till January is dealt with in a matter of fact way but it makes no sense to me. Do you know any more about it?

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...oan-experience

Given that "footballing centrebacks" are all the rage these days, I can imagine Tom Sang seeing out the rest of his career in that position. I've had one or two conversations recently about how any side that opted to go back to 80s style route one with one, or two, big, aggressive lumps up front would enjoy a, probably brief, golden period where the defensive weakness of many currently playing centreback would get exposed - someone like Sang would struggle in such circumstances I would have thought.

As for his best position, I think I've probably seen more of him in. our under 21/23 team than playing senior football and, if I had to pin him down to one position, I think I'd say right midfield based on what I saw at age group level. Wasn't there some disagreement between Sang and Steve Morison as to where he should play? Sang wanted to play right back and Morison saw him as a central midfielder ot vice versa?

Only thing i can say about Luke Pearce is that I read or was told somewhere that his loan contract had to be until 31 December even though the Irish season only went on until something like the start of November - makes no sense to me, but I'm not sure that it was really the case anyway.

[jon1959]

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Bulut talking to the Turkish media about his achievements at Cardiff City FC, and especially his track record with Academy graduates:

Speaking on beIN SPORT, in quotes translated by Turkish social media account @EROLBULUTÇUYUZ, he said: "What I’d like to highlight about the academy is that, in the club's 125-year history, I’m the first manager to bring players up from the academy and send them out on loan. Last year, I sent 16 players out on loan.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tonights-cardiff-city-news-forward-30545590?utm_source=wales_online_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=main_ccfc_newsletter&utm_content=&utm_term=&ruid=52ce7292-95c9-4d17-a257-f1bf2e51913f&hx=3cfb1dc8c1f8d08f2efb903a239a05801222d6d4a02538bedef34a8a829ae9dc

The first manager to 'bring players up from the academy and send them out on loan'?

Something lost in translation or just a brazen invention?

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Stevenage boss Alex Revell talking about Eli King:

"First half he still could have played forward more, we’re trying to get him to be braver on the ball.

"I think the big thing for him is to learn the nasty side of the game. That’s not smashing people but understanding the importance of winning the 50-50 duels and your headers.

"But second half at Burton we saw a much better performance, a more complete performance in terms of playing and running forward, switches of play, winning his duels.

"He is getting better and anyone that comes from a different club, no matter how far away that is, it does take time and it can be lonely.

"We've made sure that he and Ken are in the same place together so it's great for them to have each other.

"But the lads here are fantastic at welcoming people and both of them are now showing that they can be a part of the group."

https://www.thecomet.net/sport/24791028.ken-aboh-eli-king-growing-confidence-stevenage/

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Simic out until January or longer with a "very strange injury" and looks likely to be recalled.

[Rjk]

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Simic out until January or longer with a "very strange injury" and looks likely to be recalled.

strange move all round, I'd like to see him get some game time in the championship when he's fit.
Salzburg have got to be a better team than we are, and if he could get in their side why couldn't he get in ours (or Kortrijk for that matter)

[Jimmy the Jock]

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Bulut talking to the Turkish media about his achievements at Cardiff City FC, and especially his track record with Academy graduates:

Speaking on beIN SPORT, in quotes translated by Turkish social media account @EROLBULUTÇUYUZ, he said: "What I’d like to highlight about the academy is that, in the club's 125-year history, I’m the first manager to bring players up from the academy and send them out on loan. Last year, I sent 16 players out on loan.

Impressive, we wouldn't have minded a few more points on the board as he was beating an alleged 125 year old record.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tonights-cardiff-city-news-forward-30545590?utm_source=wales_online_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=main_ccfc_newsletter&utm_content=&utm_term=&ruid=52ce7292-95c9-4d17-a257-f1bf2e51913f&hx=3cfb1dc8c1f8d08f2efb903a239a05801222d6d4a02538bedef34a8a829ae9dc

The first manager to 'bring players up from the academy and send them out on loan'?

Something lost in translation or just a brazen invention?

Better than mentioning his appalling record I guess?