LOL at the egg….

[the other bob wilson]

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Typical daft reply from you. If you and your school mates never had the balls to stand up for yourselves back then, then that’s your problem.
I’d also seek psychological assistance if I were you and you’re still traumatised over a PE teacher.

I take it you’re on a wind up in this thread? Comparatively speaking, we had it much less bad than others in Cantonian in the late 60s and 70s. We had a football team for all of the years i was there and in the sixth form, we won a National trophy (I say “we”, I was never good enough to get a game) with a team that had three players who played league football and one of them won senior caps for Wales - John Toshack had also represented Cantonian a few years earlier.
The rugby team when I was there was almost exclusively made up of former pupils of the Holy Family Primary School - the rugby team was very much a Catholic side and the football team was made up of ex pupils of Pentrebane, Peterlea and Fairwater Protestant schools.
Nevertheless, the two Headmasters during my time were very much rugby men (one of them played for Llanelli) and, although one of the younger PE teachers got to play against City in a Welsh Cup game, so were most of the teachers and there were little things like the football pitch was always the furthest, and most likely to cut up badly, away from the changing rooms.
The first Headmaster I had was Harold “Motho” Davies who was a man who frightened the hardest kids in my year. He had a fearsome reputation and the only time I was caned was when five or six of us were having a kick about in the playground one lunchtime and one of us (not me!) kicked the ball against his office window. We hoped he was not in his office, but he was of course and he caned all of us without asking who hit his window.
Frankly, the notion of a group of us going to see Motho demanding that we be allowed to play football, or making any other demand for school procedure to change is laughable.

[William Treseder]

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Standing up and challenging authority in Lady Mary during my years there would have meant being physically assaulted by one teacher in particular. 12 & 13 year old boys standing up for themselves against 40 odd year old bullies? Never going to happen.

Ok. Let’s establish that in certain schools it was neigh on impossible to change things. It still didn’t stop young gifted footballers from making their mark in the game. We played football at every given opportunity. On our way to school, during the day at school and on the way home as well. We never ever played rugby other than in PE and the school team.
If it was as draconian as some on here make it out to be how did the likes of John Charles, Ivor Allchurch, John Toshack, Joey Jones, etc etc ever make it in the round ball game?
Using school days as an excuse to hate everything rugby is childish and daft in my book. If you don’t like the game, just say you don’t like the game.
I’d have loved to have boxed in school, and approached my Headmaster and PE teacher on numerous occasions to try and get it allowed, but to no avail. I still think it should be allowed in schools to this day. I just had to do it outside of school hrs.

[the other bob wilson]

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Ok. Let’s establish that in certain schools it was neigh on impossible to change things. It still didn’t stop young gifted footballers from making their mark in the game. We played football at every given opportunity. On our way to school, during the day at school and on the way home as well. We never ever played rugby other than in PE and the school team.
If it was as draconian as some on here make it out to be how did the likes of John Charles, Ivor Allchurch, John Toshack, Joey Jones, etc etc ever make it in the round ball game?
Using school days as an excuse to hate everything rugby is childish and daft in my book. If you don’t like the game, just say you don’t like the game.
I’d have loved to have boxed in school, and approached my Headmaster and PE teacher on numerous occasions to try and get it allowed, but to no avail. I still think it should be allowed in schools to this day. It didn’t mean I grew up hating boxing because i wasn’t allowed to do it in school. I just had to do it outside of school hrs.

Your last paragraph makes no sense in the contact of this discussion - all of those on here who were prevented from playing football in school clearly didn’t end up hating the game, yet you seem to think they do.

[insider]

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I remember having a games lesson and having to watch the All blacks play a tour game against some Welsh side because the games master wanted to watch it.
I couldn't give a shit I just sat there looking out the window.

[Former Labour leader]

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My schoolday experience was exactly the same as most of here. At Ponty Grammar it was rugger or nothing. If you were in the rugger team you were automatically selected for cricket.
Dinner times the yard was filled with boys playing, you've guessed it, football.
Me experience, coupled with media obsession over rugby, has made be hate it, however irrational that might seem.

[islandblue]

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Standing up and challenging authority in Lady Mary during my years there would have meant being physically assaulted by one teacher in particular. 12 & 13 year old boys standing up for themselves against 40 odd year old bullies? Never going to happen.

Exactly the same at Barry Comp, P.E meant rugby overseen by bullying ex or failed rugby players. If you even mentioned playing football instead it meant endless press ups on the muddiest part of the field. Had to laugh about the poster who suggested standing up for yourself, that would have meant the dap , a whack around the head or hours of detention. This was life in South Wales schools in the 70s.

[splott parker]

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Exactly the same at Barry Comp, P.E meant rugby overseen by bullying ex or failed rugby players. If you even mentioned playing football instead it meant endless press ups on the muddiest part of the field. Had to laugh about the poster who suggested standing up for yourself, that would have meant the dap , a whack around the head or hours of detention. This was life in South Wales schools in the 70s.

It’s amazing how most of our experiences concur yet one poster seemed to be in a bubble at his school where he could challenge, complain and urge change without recrimination. We rebelled at our school, good God we did and, looking back, with very often just cause, but it was invariably crushed by various means, the dap on the arse, the cane, a board eraser aimed at your head, a short sharp punch to the lower back etc etc. The football/rugby thing was frequently a major issue, the former being the most popular sport by far, something that irked some teachers no end.

No matter how many years ago it was, the seeds of the dislike or indifference to rugby were, as many things are, sown in our adolescence.

[William Treseder]

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It’s amazing how most of our experiences concur yet one poster seemed to be in a bubble at his school where he could challenge, complain and urge change without recrimination. We rebelled at our school, good God we did and, looking back, with very often just cause, but it was invariably crushed by various means, the dap on the arse, the cane, a board eraser aimed at your head, a short sharp punch to the lower back etc etc. The football/rugby thing was frequently a major issue, the former being the most popular sport by far, something that irked some teachers no end.

No matter how many years ago it was, the seeds of the dislike or indifference to rugby were, as many things are, sown in our adolescence.

For a Splotite, you’re such a drama queen.
Any outsider visiting this thread would think you all grew up and got schooled in North Korea. I’m saying how it worked at my school, and I stand by it.

[the other bob wilson]

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For a Splotite, you’re such a drama queen.
Any outsider visiting this thread would think you all grew up and got schooled in North Korea. I’m saying how it worked at my school, and I stand by it.

What was your school?

[goats]

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What was your school?

I think he said glan Ely but maybe he went to lisvane primary?
Quite a few of the Cardiff schools I think were mainly football, cantonian, fitzalan and llanishen had some really decent players…..it probably didn’t help that ccfc weren’t so great in the 80’s and a lot of the pe teachers were still stuck in the 70’s glory days

[ToTaL ITK]

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My school (high school) was so great it got demolished.

[Mario Miethig]

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I was lucky in the schools I went to in the 70s and 80s. Millbank primary in Ely was 100% football, rugby wasn’t played at all. The headmaster, Howard Spriggs was something to do with the FAW iirc and also did some tv work in the early days of S4C on football. Cantonian HS was also mainly football, so much so that during games they had to press gang some boys to make up the numbers for rugby.

[splott parker]

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For a Splotite, you’re such a drama queen.
Any outsider visiting this thread would think you all grew up and got schooled in North Korea. I’m saying how it worked at my school, and I stand by it.

Drama Queen? Honestly, Lady Mary in 1960s under the Frank Callus regime was a lot more authoritarian than North Korea. Having the dap for walking down the stairs (his room was at the bottom of the stairs and he’d stand guard) on the right hand side, not the left. Chairs desks in the classroom set symmetrically to the floor tiles, move a chair or desk slightly, that’d be 2 with the cane. My missus forgot her beret one day, Sister Mary Christopher made her stand on the hall stage all day, no lessons for her, just standing there for the duration. Don’t get me wrong, some masters were decent and great teachers but even they were under the thumb.

[Don Corleone]

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My experience going to school in Pontypridd ( Hawthorn Comprehensive) in the 70s and very early 80s was the same as most on here. Played rugby all through my school years . When I got to 6th form we were training lunchtimes 5 days a week and playing every Saturday morning and some Wednesday afternoons too. We would rack up around 36 games a season of rugby and play schools all over South Wales and some in the Bristol / Gloucester area too. We won every game for 2 consecutive years and got to the Welsh schools 7 a side final 2 years on the trot.

I also played for the school football team which was run by the chemistry teacher, we would be lucky to get 3 or 4 competitive games a year .

It is absolutely true that we were discouraged from playing football and pushed towards rugby, especially in the early/ mid 70s. However it didn’t make me hate rugby though, I enjoyed playing the game and loved the physical aspect. It didn’t stop me playing football in the yard or up The Common and going to watch Cardiff City home every other Saturday afternoon - though did get some stick over that as we were so poor at the time. I’ve always enjoyed watching football more than rugby and will choose to play and watch football over rugby every single time - but I don’t hate rugby because of it.

The boys who were good at football played it outside school anyway , though I guess there may have been a few rare cases that were “ lost” to football because of the schools bias to rugby it can’t be many.

However no doubting the Welsh media’s bias to rugby over the years. I do believe Wales’s national sport is now football

[ToTaL ITK]

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Aye! why talk about rugby when you can reminisce about beatings from catholic headmasters and nuns...ohhh errr!