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    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    A tie. You can’t criticise an innings like that, but Glamorgan played a useless last over - they only needed two off the last over and Crane turned down an obvious single off the third ball.
    That didn’t really make much sense. He obviously backed himself but boundaries were getting more difficult and risky. A superb effort. Did the keeper think they had won, a bit OTT on his behalf.

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      Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
      That didn’t really make much sense. He obviously backed himself but boundaries were getting more difficult and risky. A superb effort. Did the keeper think they had won, a bit OTT on his behalf.
      Never one to defend the opposition, but think the ridiculous celebration was a direct result of the catch. Which annoyingly was very good. But guessing.

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      • Re: GLAMMY

        When Mason Crane refused the single the fielders dropped back, which effectively allowed him another shout. It also made getting a 2 or 4 harder to get. He then had to take the single to ensure we couldn't lose.
        I haven't seen the celebrations but they sound ott, especially as there's no difference in points for a draw or a tie.

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        • Re: GLAMMY

          Definitely OTT
          A remarkable finish to a remarkable game And how about the catch from James Bracey without his right glove on! #CountyCricket2024 https://t.co/G3GLQ2tzOq

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            Originally posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
            Ffs - that's reminiscent of Scotland celebrating a goal kick at the Euros.

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            • Re: GLAMMY

              I watched the last few deliveries. Amazing effort to get enough to draw but it felt like a loss.

              No wonder they celebrated as they prevented a miracle.

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                Great finish. Feel for Mcillroy there though. He's up one end doing his bit for a historic win, while Crane is going to pieces for no apparent reason at the other end. All the hard work done, just to spaff it away, pretty much sums us up over the last 2 months.

                Still, a cracking game that will be remembered for a long time.

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                  Was frustrating that he didn't take that single, but Crane did brilliant to get to that position in the first place. So some of the criticism seems a bit harsh.

                  The celebrations were a little OTT, but I suppose how often do you take a gloveless, one-handed wonder catch to tie a 1200+ run match on the last ball. He was also probably relieved that his double century wasn't for nothing.

                  On a plus note, there were 10k viewers for those last few overs on YouTube. Great advert for county cricket.

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                    Originally posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
                    that guy was a right bell end. such a massive disappointment after getting so close, don't you just love the fecking English!

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                      Originally posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
                      Was frustrating that he didn't take that single, but Crane did brilliant to get to that position in the first place. So some of the criticism seems a bit harsh.

                      The celebrations were a little OTT, but I suppose how often do you take a gloveless, one-handed wonder catch to tie a 1200+ run match on the last ball. He was also probably relieved that his double century wasn't for nothing.

                      On a plus note, there were 10k viewers for those last few overs on YouTube. Great advert for county cricket.
                      Good post. Crane did well to hold things together after Northeast went, it was a great effort. He'd have talked to McIlroy before the final over, some advice probably came out from the dressing room too so it may not have been all on him how it panned out. He was prepared to stand up and take the responsibility, he's well in credit for me.

                      I agree with you about the celebrations. On top of the match situation there was probably a bit of needle after they thought McIlroy had edged one to the keeper a couple of overs earlier. It was an absolutely stunning catch too, as you say. Let him have his moment.

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                        I’ve no problem with Bracey’s celebration, for a split second I thought the ball was flashing away to the boundary, but it turned to be a great, possibly unique, catch. However, I just do not get Crane’s decision to turn down the single - because I think that, it doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate that innings or a few others he’s played and I’d say that he’s already done enough to persuade me that Glamorgan should make his loan move a permanent one if there is the chance to do so.

                        However, Crane did two things by turning down that single - first,the chance Glamorgan could lose was kept alive. Second, by taking until the fifth ball to get his single, he piled the pressure on McIlroy who, instead of having three balls to come up with the winning run, had just the one. McIlroy’s a typical number eleven, but he’d helped put on thirty one for the last wicket, so he was hardly in the walking wicket category.

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                          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                          I’ve no problem with Bracey’s celebration, for a split second I thought the ball was flashing away to the boundary, but it turned to be a great, possibly unique, catch. However, I just do not get Crane’s decision to turn down the single - because I think that, it doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate that innings or a few others he’s played and I’d say that he’s already done enough to persuade me that Glamorgan should make his loan move a permanent one if there is the chance to do so.

                          However, Crane did two things by turning down that single - first,the chance Glamorgan could lose was kept alive. Second, by taking until the fifth ball to get his single, he piled the pressure on McIlroy who, instead of having three balls to come up with the winning run, had just the one. McIlroy’s a typical number eleven, but he’d helped put on thirty one for the last wicket, so he was hardly in the walking wicket category.
                          With the benefit of hindsight there's nothing to argue with there. It's exactly how most of us see it, I'm sure, and how most of us saw it as soon as he turned the single down. Knowing this board though, if he'd taken the early single and McIlroy had got out then Crane would be getting slagged off for being a pathetic bottler who couldn't wait to get out of the firing line.

                          He'd probably weighed up the odds and felt the bowler would bowl one ball he could hit for at least two. He was right but when it came he completely mistimed it. Turning down the single had piled the pressure on in a couple of ways. It showed his hand and allowed Gloucester to set a field that made it harder to hit the winning runs and, also, he must've have been aware how irresponsible he'd look if he now got out and we'd lost. Understandable if the pressure got to him then.

                          Understandable too if his brains were slightly scrambled, it's not exactly a regular occurrence for a bowler to try and guide the tail home to a target of 593. Incredible game, credit to everyone involved. Glamorgan take a lot of stick on here but they showed plenty of heart, it was a great effort.

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                            Originally posted by Loramski View Post
                            With the benefit of hindsight there's nothing to argue with there. It's exactly how most of us see it, I'm sure, and how most of us saw it as soon as he turned the single down. Knowing this board though, if he'd taken the early single and McIlroy had got out then Crane would be getting slagged off for being a pathetic bottler who couldn't wait to get out of the firing line.

                            He'd probably weighed up the odds and felt the bowler would bowl one ball he could hit for at least two. He was right but when it came he completely mistimed it. Turning down the single had piled the pressure on in a couple of ways. It showed his hand and allowed Gloucester to set a field that made it harder to hit the winning runs and, also, he must've have been aware how irresponsible he'd look if he now got out and we'd lost. Understandable if the pressure got to him then.

                            Understandable too if his brains were slightly scrambled, it's not exactly a regular occurrence for a bowler to try and guide the tail home to a target of 593. Incredible game, credit to everyone involved. Glamorgan take a lot of stick on here but they showed plenty of heart, it was a great effort.
                            Can't agree that people would be having a go at Crane for taking a single. To have a go at him for taking a single you'd need to be an absolutely monumental idiot. There were a few occasions in the last couple of overs where Jamie wanted a run and crane turned him down. We've got some great players,Crane being one of them, but we don't half seem to suffer from some serious brain fades at times.

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                              Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
                              Can't agree that people would be having a go at Crane for taking a single. To have a go at him for taking a single you'd need to be an absolutely monumental idiot. There were a few occasions in the last couple of overs where Jamie wanted a run and crane turned him down. We've got some great players,Crane being one of them, but we don't half seem to suffer from some serious brain fades at times.
                              But it's unfair to single out Crane. When the margins are that fine, you could point to any mistake over the four days being the difference. A misfield, an overthrow, a no ball.

                              There have been plenty of games this year that Glamorgan should have won, and they've rightly deserved the criticism in those instances. I would class this one in the "could" have won. As a tail ender, Crane could just as easily have swung out on 5 or 10, and we would have come away with nothing.

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                                Originally posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
                                But it's unfair to single out Crane. When the margins are that fine, you could point to any mistake over the four days being the difference. A misfield, an overthrow, a no ball.

                                There have been plenty of games this year that Glamorgan should have won, and they've rightly deserved the criticism in those instances. I would class this one in the "could" have won. As a tail ender, Crane could just as easily have swung out on 5 or 10, and we would have come away with nothing.
                                Glamorgan needed two runs off the last over to win, they managed one. You’d think that they’d lost a wicket early in the over given they only scored the one run, but Crane faced five before leaving it to McIlroy for the last one. Crane has shown throughout the season that he is much better than a tail end batsman and I bear that in mind when I say he made a mess of the last over - as I said above, surely you don’t turn down the chance to ensure you won’t lose the game with four balls to go? If McIlroy wasout off the next ball then so be it, but he would have been better placed to play “proper” cricket if he had four balls to come up with a single rather than one.

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