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  • #76
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    The bottom line is that it’s full of French people

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    • #77
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      Maryam Nuri Mohamed Amin was a 24-year-old Kurdish woman from northern Iraq.

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      • #78
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        Originally posted by bobh View Post
        I was thinking this myself.

        IMO, if a person is genuinely fleeing oppression, then he should claim asylum in the FIRST safe country he enters, as per international law.
        As soon as he leaves one safe country, he becomes an "economic migrant" and loses any claim for asylum.
        Sounds like the kind of thing a lawyer for the furthest away country would say. We helped create the problems that all of these people are fleeing from, why shouldn't we be a small part of the solution?

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        • #79
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          Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
          Sounds like the kind of thing a lawyer for the furthest away country would say. We helped create the problems that all of these people are fleeing from, why shouldn't we be a small part of the solution?
          I'm very sure that if the UK had a land border with a country that had refugees, all the people arguing "first safe haven" would instead be arguing "European countries should work with each other to share it out"

          It's NIMBY and isn't fooling anyone.

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          • #80
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            Originally posted by life on mars View Post
            You could be onto something here for decades Brits have failed to see the benefits of 'free movement' are you suggesting Polish ladies have those attributes ?
            Polish women are hard work. Leave well alone

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            • #81
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              Originally posted by lardy View Post
              I'm very sure that if the UK had a land border with a country that had refugees, all the people arguing "first safe haven" would instead be arguing "European countries should work with each other to share it out"

              It's NIMBY and isn't fooling anyone.
              Well quite.

              I still can't see the issue with letting them all in.

              The cornerstone of our legal system is that its better to let 10 guilty men go free than punish one innocent man.

              If they are asylum seekers, then we need to help them. If they turn out to be economic migrants then so what.

              We should have asylum centres on the French side. Anyone processed there has a right to entry.

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              • #82
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                Just got on to this fascinating thread and I have to say as much as I admire the OP he's being a bit of a tease on this one.

                Why would anyone prefer this country over France, (even though our benefits are far worse than Continental Europe!)

                Well, apart from the obvious family ties, which I thought no should have nailed the answer...

                We have Shakespeare, Byron, Keats and Milton...
                We have Constable, Turner and Gainsborough...
                We have Holst, Sergeant and Taverner...
                We have Newton, Clarke-Maxwell and Steven Hawking...
                We have Thomas Hobbes, David Hume and Bertrand Russell...
                We have Tom Jones, Roger Moore and Ant and Dec for the ladies...
                We have wonderful coasts and magnificent mountains, we have history, intrigue and tradition...
                We used to have a proud belief in right and wrong before Brexit...
                We have the Beatles...
                What's not to like?

                I for one feel proud and honoured that these poor people hoped to choose our lovely country over the rest. I weep for their misfortune and sacrifice.

                However, what I cannot understand is this...

                Our buffoon of a Prime Minister and his evil henchwoman Pritti Patel have wailed so loudly about how sad they are that this tragedy occurred. One wonders, if that is the case why didn't they send out a rescue ship to ensure these poor people reached our great shores safe and sound? In answer to the OP I'm so proud these wretched people wanted refuge in my country; what a shame we are being governed by racist fools.

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                • #83
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                  Sir Keir Starmer has promised to "smash the gangs" which smuggle people across the English Channel.


                  The UK take less than Greece then, less than half of what those beret wearing, garlic munching, surrender monkeys Froggies do?

                  We’re being stitched up here.

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                  • #84
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                    • #85
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                      Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511

                      The UK take less than Greece then, less than half of what those beret wearing, garlic munching, surrender monkeys Froggies do?

                      We’re being stitched up here.
                      Pretty much all the "unanswered" questions from this thread are addressed in this article.

                      Of those that wanted to travel to England more than half (52%), said they already had a family member there.

                      "They have a connection to the UK, they speak some English, they have family, they have friends and people in their networks. They want to come and stay and rebuild their lives," says Enver Solomon, chief executive of the Refugee Council.

                      Many migrants already choose to make an asylum claim in the first country they arrive in - such as Greece, Turkey or Italy - and only a minority choose to travel on to the UK.

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                      • #86
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                        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                        Very good......and will be thrown into conversation by me with no ‘nicking it’ embarrassment

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                        • #87
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                          this kind of thing makes you ashamed to be British

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                          • #88
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                            Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                            https://twitter.com/greg_jenner/stat...JUjBUjZeg&s=19

                            this kind of thing makes you ashamed to be British
                            Tenner says those people were shouting "All Lives Matter" at some point in recent history as well

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                            • #89
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                              Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                              Tenner says those people were shouting "All Lives Matter" at some point in recent history as well
                              Why would you say that? It's awful to stop the RNLI doing their work, but the principle of all lives matter is valid.

                              Can you name the six victims of the Waukesha parade attack last week?

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                              • #90
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                                Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                                https://twitter.com/greg_jenner/stat...JUjBUjZeg&s=19

                                this kind of thing makes you ashamed to be British
                                It's like the deep south chickenshit cracker land , I am afraid lots of people have this attitude in the UK

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