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  • Re: IF Drakeford says...

    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    But did most of the polls say those things would happen? Nah, not really....
    Polls aren't meant to be predictions though. Projections perhaps or just snap shots to be taken for what they are but they don't claim to predict outcomes.

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      Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
      What’s horse shit - views that don’t accord with you or a rigged poll?
      1,000 people out of a population of 3.138m is an extremely small sample , and everyone I know think Drakeford is out of control. The older generation perhaps have different views

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        Originally posted by Father Dougal View Post
        Polls aren't meant to be predictions though. Projections perhaps or just snap shots to be taken for what they are but they don't claim to predict outcomes.
        Indeed. So not really reliable at all, then.

        Apparently, according to the latest polls, the Labour Party have a resounding 11-point lead over the Tories. If there was a general election next week, do you reckon Labour would win?

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          Originally posted by stan butler View Post
          I don't know anyone that prefers Drakeford's approach
          Majority of folk I know disagree with Drakeford and that's been enforced since the Omicron , political point scoring at its worst.

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            Originally posted by life on mars View Post
            Majority of folk I know disagree with Drakeford and that's been enforced since the Omicron , political point scoring at its worst.
            Stan and LOM mates in 'Disagree with Drakeford' Shocker

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            • Re: IF Drakeford says...

              Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
              Stan and LOM mates in 'Disagree with Drakeford' Shocker
              Incredible isn’t it, I post a survey of a thousand people that shows sixty per cent to seventeen per cent (a huge margin) in favour of something and those on here who fall into the minority on here refuse to believe it reflects public thinking - out of the thousand, six hundred feel one way and one hundred and seventy another, I think that’s probably outside the margin of error for the poll, but it can’t be right because their mates are agree with them.

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              • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                Meanwhile, I don't know a single person who hasn't socialised at all since the first lockdown. Even my parents have been out with friends a few times, and they're in their mid-eighties and were in the 'shielding' category when that was a thing.
                True, even my mother has been out with her mates, all about 88/89, more of the opinion they know they haven’t got long left anyway so the last thing they want to do is stay at home all the friggin time….sleep when you die

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                  Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                  ......it can’t be right because their mates are agree with them.
                  Tuerto's my mate. He doesn't agree with me.

                  I'd be genuinely staggered if the results of that poll were an accurate reflection of the way the wider Welsh public is thinking, but these are very strange times. And the timing of the poll (assuming it was carried out very recently) is also telling.

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                    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                    Incredible isn’t it, I post a survey of a thousand people that shows sixty per cent to seventeen per cent (a huge margin) in favour of something and those on here who fall into the minority on here refuse to believe it reflects public thinking - out of the thousand, six hundred feel one way and one hundred and seventy another, I think that’s probably outside the margin of error for the poll, but it can’t be right because their mates are agree with them.
                    I think people may have a different view of him if he was more transparent with the data he releases ,that said he’s not the only one to mislead the public.

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                    • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                      Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                      Tuerto's my mate. He doesn't agree with me.

                      I'd be genuinely staggered if the results of that poll were an accurate reflection of the way the wider Welsh public is thinking, but these are very strange times. And the timing of the poll (assuming it was carried out very recently) is also telling.
                      If it was a Brexit like 52/48, I’d agree, but even 60/40 is pretty conclusive and well beyond the margin of error in such polls. As I said when I posted the link, I’m surprised by the result, but I really can’t see how it can be wrong when the figures are so much in favour of the Welsh Government’s approach.

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                      • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                        Shame we can't stick a poll in this thread, that would tell us the answer conclusively

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                        • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                          Tuerto's my mate. He doesn't agree with me.

                          I'd be genuinely staggered if the results of that poll were an accurate reflection of the way the wider Welsh public is thinking, but these are very strange times. And the timing of the poll (assuming it was carried out very recently) is also telling.
                          oddly enough, i would say that the figures are probably quite accurate I think that if another poll was carried out asking a thousand people if They like Mark Drakeford, the 60% would be reversed.

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                          • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                            If it was a Brexit like 52/48, I’d agree, but even 60/40 is pretty conclusive and well beyond the margin of error in such polls. As I said when I posted the link, I’m surprised by the result, but I really can’t see how it can be wrong when the figures are so much in favour of the Welsh Government’s approach.
                            I'm not surprised. What i hear is people saying that they just don't like Mark Drakeford, his demeanour, personality etc. I have to be straight with you though. Most of the people who i encounter on a daily basis are as thick as shit, i mean really stupid.

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                              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                              As I said when I posted the link, I’m surprised by the result, but I really can’t see how it can be wrong when the figures are so much in favour of the Welsh Government’s approach.
                              Presumably, it isn't wrong. That was how things worked out when those 1,006 people were polled. But does that mean the wider Welsh public is thinking along similar lines? Who knows? So much would depend on who was polled, when they were polled, what was in the news at that precise point in time, what the personal circumstances of those polled were, etc etc.

                              In my experience, the 'neither' option would win such a poll by a landslide, and that's by no means restricted to the views of my friends either.

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                              • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                                Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                                oddly enough, i would say that the figures are probably quite accurate.
                                Of course, we have to make some allowances for those among us who want Wales to beat England at everything "even if it's tiddlywinks....."

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