IF Drakeford says...

[J R Hartley]

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How more cautious can you get though? Most of the restrictions he has brought in recently have had a minimal impact of the case rate .

These restrictions are fine if you’re unaffected , however, with Wales, It particularly affected the hospitality sector. it’s one of the biggest employers and a brings in £216m p.a It was well documented the Omicron variant was mild , yet he chose to implement additional restrictions regardless.

Hear hear

Anyone defending him clearly hasn’t been affected by these ridiculous, illogical restrictions he has put in place.

What he has done to the hospitality sector is bordering on criminal.

[J R Hartley]

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You really believe he's the only one who makes the decision?

As First Minister the buck stops with him.

[TWGL1]

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You really believe he's the only one who makes the decision?

Do you really believe Boris is the only one who makes the decision

[Hilts]

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Do you really believe Boris is the only one who makes the decision

Of course not someone arranged a piss up in the poor tw@ts back garden without asking

[Dave Blue]

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Hear hear

Anyone defending him clearly hasn’t been affected by these ridiculous, illogical restrictions he has put in place.

What he has done to the hospitality sector is bordering on criminal.

Nobody 'needs' hospitality. The funding is there to keep them afloat whilst the restrictions are in place. People do need hospitals though. I'd rather the thought of an ambulance turning up for me than the awful prospect of having to order a drink from your seat, what an ordeal.

[J R Hartley]

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lol

The reaction he gets is hilarious.

drunk on power because he was slightly more cautious in easing restrictions than some nearby countries?.
I don't think it's going to make anyone's top ten of examples of people being drunk on power any time soon.

Yes, drunk on power.

All along he has played politics to be different to England. Look at me, I’m calling the shots in Wales.

For all their faults, and there are way too many, at least the Tories give a shit about the economy and keeping the wheels of industry turning.

Here in Wales it’s head in the sand worrying about covid even though the vaccine has been rolled out and no thought for the economy, mental health, people missing appointments and operations for other issues.etc

Putting in illogical restrictions which are having little impact on infection but a big impact on the economy of Wales.

Nevermind it has a survival rate of 99.7% and probably higher the more we get vaccinated, let’s just do all we can to protect a tiny fraction of the population of having a few more years on an already long life whilst we ignore the damage it’s doing to our children’s futures. Teenagers and young adults will be the ones to pay for these decisions for many years to come, probably the rest of their lives.

England are now past the peak of Omnicrom, where was the big NHS collapse that Drakeford warned about? Even with all the data and all the reports from those further into the variant than we are saying it was mild he still won’t row back and lose face, blaming this variable, or that variable. I’m surprised the guy can cross the road by the time he takes into account the chances of being run over and the variables to consider.

Ironically, for all his posturing and showing Wales are independent of Westminster he’s probably set Welsh independence back decades.

Governed by the most corrupt, dishonest, shameless government on one side and Dictator Drakeford on the other. Oh what a time to be a Welshman living in Wales.

[the other bob wilson]

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Of course not someone arranged a piss up in the poor tw@ts back garden without asking

And when he was trying to work as well.

[J R Hartley]

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Nobody 'needs' hospitality. The funding is there to keep them afloat whilst the restrictions are in place. People do need hospitals though. I'd rather the thought of an ambulance turning up for me than the awful prospect of having to order a drink from your seat, what an ordeal.

Nobody needs hospitality. Only the people who rely on the income for their livliehood. Most people working in pubs, restaurants.etc are on zero hour contracts. The funding doesn’t come close to recompensing the industry and its staff.

[JamesWales]

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You really believe he's the only one who makes the decision?

Maybe it's Beijing pulling his strings you mean?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59984380

[dml1954]

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Nobody 'needs' hospitality. The funding is there to keep them afloat whilst the restrictions are in place. People do need hospitals though. I'd rather the thought of an ambulance turning up for me than the awful prospect of having to order a drink from your seat, what an ordeal.

On that basis, I would assume that you would be happy with crowds never being allowed into stadiums again then because of the chance of viruses being passed amongst the crowd. Crowded hospitals and delayed ambulances happen every year, pandemic or not. His decision has nothing to do with Covid. The numbers in hospital and intensive care with Covid in Wales is very small. If he gets away with this, then he will do it anytime.

[Hilts]

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Nobody 'needs' hospitality. The funding is there to keep them afloat whilst the restrictions are in place. People do need hospitals though. I'd rather the thought of an ambulance turning up for me than the awful prospect of having to order a drink from your seat, what an ordeal.

Its not just ordering from seats though theres restrictions meaning reduced capacity in pubs.

Im quite happy sitting in a pub with table service. The landlords and staff with bills to pay are not.

[J R Hartley]

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Maybe it's Beijing pulling his strings you mean?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59984380

Nice distraction tactic from Westminster. Blame the Chinese.

[JamesWales]

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Nobody needs hospitality. Only the people who rely on the income for their livliehood. Most people working in pubs, restaurants.etc are on zero hour contracts. The funding doesn’t come close to recompensing the industry and its staff.

I agree, though I would add that people do need hospitality. For mental and even physical health and to create an economy that funds hospitals and to create a society worth living in.

Yes, a temporary shut down of hospitality may have been justified at the height of the pandemic, but now, as England has shown, doing so is just an example of flexing political muscles and being overly risk averse.

I feel incredibly sorry for anyone in hospitality, as I do for those coerced into working from home with talks of fines imposed.

He's not had a bad pandemic but Drakeford has overstepped the mark of late.

[Rjk]

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Nice distraction tactic from Westminster. Blame the Chinese.

yep I thought that too, strange how this has been made public now isn't it

[B. Oddie]

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lol

The reaction he gets is hilarious.

drunk on power because he was slightly more cautious in easing restrictions than some nearby countries?.
I don't think it's going to make anyone's top ten of examples of people being drunk on power any time soon.

I agree. All the stick he's had is unbelievably unwarranted an ill-thought.

The national media regularly and subtly tried to undermine and ridicule him, perhaps it's because he's been quite publicly scathing of the Tories.

This Welsh Government has done an incredibly good job at propping up the Welsh economy during the pandemic whilst following scientific advice.