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  • Re: IF Drakeford says...

    Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
    And there aren't climate change deniers , anti vaxers etc in our generation?
    Did I say that?

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    • Re: IF Drakeford says...

      Originally posted by Doucas View Post
      Where have I said they don't have a right to an opinion? I'm criticising their/your opinion that you've constantly voted to make lives worse for the generations that come after you.

      And those under 40 who broke lockdown rules are pricks of the highest order, but let's not forget that anti vaxxers skew heavily with age mind.

      Notice that none of you are answering any of my questions.
      Probably because it is all utter bollocks. I haven't voted for anything that I think makes things worse for future generations by the way. That's just your warped opinion. You really should consider going to live in Russia you know, it would suit you down to the ground but something tells me that you wouldn't stick it for long.

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      • Re: IF Drakeford says...

        Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
        reports coming out of westminster this morning COVID passes will be scrapped along with Work From Home to be stopped at the end of the month too but will still require to wear a face mask on trains and in shops whilst Mr Drakeford is now adding a booster to get a COVID pass here in Wales

        Follow the science :shrug:

        Only 19,718,497 (31%) have had the booster in England, perhaps that’s why they are scrapping it.

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          Just watched Drakefords news conference. The man just can not bring himself to be optimistic in any way. He is still preaching the ‘we are probably still all going to die but in the meantime we will let you go out a bit more’ mantra that has dominated his thinking since the start.

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          • Re: IF Drakeford says...

            Looks like the number 10 Nudge Unit and behavioural scientists have really got to a few posters on here :hehe:

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            • Re: IF Drakeford says...

              Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
              Only 19,718,497 (31%) have had the booster in England, perhaps that’s why they are scrapping it.
              the booster hasn't yet been offered to the whole population. plus your figures are wrong - over 30m booster doses have been given in England which is over 60% of the eligable population.

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                The government always release the correct figures and tell the truth don’t they …..just remember a G.P gets £12.50 a shot even if the person doesn’t present themselves

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                • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                  Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                  The government always release the correct figures and tell the truth don’t they …..just remember a G.P gets £12.50 a shot even if the person doesn’t present themselves
                  What a load of rubbish. You have no idea what you are talking about. where did you get the 19m figure from - thin air ? plus they havent cancelled the booster programme, so you made the whole thing up.

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                  • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                    Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                    So are you just choosing to completely ignore how wages have been stagnant since basically as long as I've been alive and how house prices have increased drastically? I mean justify this - https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-average-wages

                    Older people could work much less and get more for their money, now you're hellbent on pulling up the ladder behind you.

                    Explain to me how Drakeford doesn't care about the economy or is this something you're just parroting online that you can't actually back up? Tell me how the tories are good economically despite having the highest debt per GDP ratio since world war 2 (and this was before covid). Tell me anything that's getting better in the UK.
                    You are singing to the choir Dorkus.

                    I’m only 45 im not pulling any ladder up as I’m not very far up the ladder myself. Ive benefited from having quite a low mortgage as I got on the ladder when I was early 20s and just before the boom in early 2000s but we are also victims of wages not increasing with inflation. I now earn around the average for the UK when I used to earn well above it for doing same job. My wife is a civil servant with the DWP and has barely had a pay rise in 10 years and is practically on minimum wage now so the streets are hardly paved with gold for me either.

                    I’ve had many sleepless nights over my children’s (17 and 13) future, employment and the wages to house prices being a main factor, so much so 3 years ago I had to go back on anti-depressants because my mental health seriously deteriorated after so many sleepless nights worrying about things so far in the future that I couldn’t control and so wasn’t able to live in the present.

                    I resent the fact you somehow think I have got it easy compared to your generation and don’t think we care about future generations. You couldn’t be further from the truth.

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                      It’s up to week 49 , so assume is increasing but again is disappointing

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                      • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                        Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                        the booster hasn't yet been offered to the whole population. plus your figures are wrong - over 30m booster doses have been given in England which is over 60% of the eligable population.
                        In England the boosters have been open to everyone since the middle of December at least.

                        There’s a lack of appetite but also everyone having covid means a lot of people have had to delay

                        They’re going to become mandatory for travel at some point in certain countries so I expect take up will increase.

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                        • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                          Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                          Only 19,718,497 (31%) have had the booster in England, perhaps that’s why they are scrapping it.
                          30,217,780 Boosters as of yesterday in England alone.

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                            Clearly I’m not making it up then…. It’s a lower than anticipated take up which is why I suggested that’s the reason they are scrapping Vaccine Passports in England

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                              Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                              Clearly I’m not making it up then…. It’s a lower than anticipated take up which is why I suggested that’s the reason they are scrapping Vaccine Passports in England
                              There’s never been vaccine passports used in England outside of scanning the track and trace app. I’d actually say with the amount of people who’ve had to delay because they’ve had covid the booster take up is about where you’d expect it.

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                              • Re: IF Drakeford says...

                                Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
                                The original poster was trying to say that the older generation don't give a toss about the world around us. The Reading festival analogy is a small visual illustration. The amount of plastic waste, and 'disposable culture' that it represents is hardly in line with eco principles. My point was simple , that in all generations there are people who do give a toss, and those who don't.
                                The plastic waste and “disposable culture” is because it’s ingrained in our manufacturing etc.

                                I’m not saying there aren’t young people who care more than old people but it’s a bad analogy imo.

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