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  • Re: George Carlin religion

    Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
    No it's not, whether you like it or not.

    Humanism doesn't have to compete with organised (and man-made) religions. Why should it?

    It doesn't have to compete with faith (to acknowledge Truthpaste's distinctions, and hatred of religion) or go toe-to-toe with the certainties of cult members.

    Human beings can give their own meaning to their lives, create their own values and purposes, and face death without terror. We no longer live in the fear and ignorance of past centuries. We should have grown up!
    Humanism does have to compete with religion, we need the truth Jon.

    The super natural is there. Whatever the truth of our existence is. It's super natural and beyond your capabilities clearly.

    Dismissing religion as "man made" is about as fatuous as it gets. Who do you think made man?

    No atheist can face death without terror, you are deluding yourself. Death for an atheist is a terrible prospect, it hangs over their subconcious for life.

    You don't half talk bollocks with a condescending air Jon. Just like you claiming ancient Brits were dark skinned. There is no evidence for this, which is why cheddar man was debunked as left wing rubbish, yet you still insist on it being true.

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    • Re: George Carlin religion

      Originally posted by Lither_1927 View Post
      The super natural is there. Whatever the truth of our existence is. It's super natural and beyond your capabilities clearly.

      Dismissing religion as "man made" is about as fatuous as it gets. Who do you think made man?

      No atheist can face death without terror, you are deluding yourself. Death for an atheist is a terrible prospect, it hangs over their subconcious for life.

      You don't half talk bollocks with a condescending air Jon. Just like you claiming ancient Brits were dark skinned. There is no evidence for this, which is why cheddar man was debunked as left wing rubbish, yet you still insist on it being true.
      An atheist doesn’t die terrorised about the afterlife though? They’re terrorised that it’s the end

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      • Re: George Carlin religion

        Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
        That could also be said about Quantum Physics and could, mathematically, just be a series of meaningless, random, quantum events. That doesn't mean we don't feel, laugh, cry, hurt etc. but there may be no meaning whatsoever. I often wonder if the dinosaurs contemplated the same things in their much lengthier (sorry for the grammar) time on earth. I think humans are a tad precious. We're extremely likely to become extinct. I don't think any conscious entity is going to prevent that.
        My guess is that you would struggle to find a group of atheist quantum physicists.

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        • Re: George Carlin religion

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          I was wondering about that 🤔
          Mass immigration and globalism represent chaos and the death of age old cultures and peoples. If the devil is chaos then God is order. I always prefer order to chaos.

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          • Re: George Carlin religion

            How do you know what happens to an atheist when he dies? Please tell me your experiences. I'd love to know

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            • Re: George Carlin religion

              Originally posted by Baloo View Post
              I think Humanists would simply believe our existence is mind blowing and defies our current understanding. However there’s no need to insert comforting but implausible answers because of that.

              I think Humanists would also believe people have the capacity to be both good and bad. But a better life is built on positive attributes such as learning, reason, compassion, integrity, kindness etc.
              Do you believe our existence is "mind blowing and defies our current understanding" if so, would you accept we have a God i.e. our creator?

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              • Re: George Carlin religion

                [QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;5317289]
                Originally posted by Lither_1927 View Post

                Didn't Hitler believe in God ?

                The sources of information you have given are American .....they are all fecking religious idiots so you can forget that , you may as well send a survey around a church

                Nobel prize winners .....bright people ?

                Do you think they are all in church every Sunday?
                You're a very bad advert for Atheism.

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                • Re: George Carlin religion

                  Originally posted by Lither_1927 View Post
                  Do you believe our existence is "mind blowing and defies our current understanding" if so, would you accept we have a God i.e. our creator?
                  In a word no, it is all made up.

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                  • Re: George Carlin religion

                    Originally posted by jeepster View Post
                    In a word no, it is all made up.
                    So, in your considered opinion how did we get here?

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                    • Re: George Carlin religion

                      Originally posted by Lither_1927 View Post
                      How do you know what happens to an atheist when he dies? Please tell me your experiences. I'd love to know
                      I know as much about it as you do

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                      • Re: George Carlin religion

                        Originally posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
                        I know as much about it as you do
                        So, you're Agnostic and not an Atheist then?

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                        • Re: George Carlin religion

                          Originally posted by Lither_1927 View Post
                          So, you're Agnostic and not an Atheist then?
                          Agnostic atheist

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                          • Re: George Carlin religion

                            Originally posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
                            Agnostic atheist
                            Haha pick one fruitcake. But remember God is watching...

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                            • Re: George Carlin religion

                              Originally posted by Lither_1927 View Post
                              So, in your considered opinion how did we get here?
                              do you know,what you believe is a load of crap.

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                              • Re: George Carlin religion

                                Originally posted by Lither_1927 View Post
                                My guess is that you would struggle to find a group of atheist quantum physicists.
                                Well, we'll never know until we open the box

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