George Carlin religion

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: George Carlin religion

Chaos is definitely not God, unless you worship the anti christ. From mathematics to Art, order is seen as beautiful and heart warming.
The most profound words ever written were in The Gospel of John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"

Words are God, Words require order to work. God is order. If chaos was God, we'd all be speaking random garbled nonesense to each other with no order. We'd barely be able to comunicate

OK, I I'm done with you now. I just can't live in your medieval head. Try reading Sophie's World by Jostein Gaarder.

[Lither_1927]

Re: George Carlin religion

You're still talking shite. We weren't made from nothing. It's called evolution. Doh!!

Don't start me on evolution, another irrational system.
If you believe in evolution, explain how a bumble bee will continually grow a wing that had no practical use until 75% complete.
Why, under natural selection would a bee keep selecting for an adaptation that has no use. A 1% Bee wing has no use so why keep selecting for it over generations?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: George Carlin religion

Chaos is definitely not God, unless you worship the anti christ. From mathematics to Art, order is seen as beautiful and heart warming.
The most profound words ever written were in The Gospel of John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"

Words are God, Words require order to work. God is order. If chaos was God, we'd all be speaking random garbled nonesense to each other with no order. We'd barely be able to comunicate

You think the words written by .....John? .....in his gospel ......were the most profound words ever written ?

That's an opinion , it's not a fact

And in the same way we know that if you heat up water it will boil .....a fact proven by science ........you cannot , apart from playing verbal tennis as you and other Christians do , give any proof that there is a god

Nothing at all

A shin bone , photos , fingerprints , recordings of him speaking , film footage of him performing miracles

Nothing

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Can't remember seeing God on The Word in the 90s.

When telly was proper telly and VHS remotes were wired.

[Lither_1927]

Re: George Carlin religion

You think the words written by .....John? .....in his gospel ......were the most profound words ever written ?

That's an opinion , it's not a fact

And in the same way we know that if you heat up water it will boil .....a fact proven by science ........you cannot , apart from playing verbal tennis as you and other Christians do , give any proof that there is a god

Nothing at all

A shin bone , photos , fingerprints , recordings of him speaking , film footage of him performing miracles

Nothing

I'm using logic and reason to prove God (our creator)exists. If you object to my logic explain how you create something(our universe) from nothing...in science that is not possible.

What to you are the most profound words ever written?

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: George Carlin religion

Is anyone else desperate to watch some shit football?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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If she believes that it was gods will to let her live and call time on the poor souls who died, then that's her logic, her solace. I don't think that it's anymore complicated than that in my opinion.

I think you are totally missing the point.

[Lither_1927]

Re: George Carlin religion

I think you are totally missing the point.

Could you be anymore condescending?
No explanation, just a metaphorical pat on the head and a stern "No boy"
Socially clumsy at best.

[Lither_1927]

Re: George Carlin religion

OK, I I'm done with you now. I just can't live in your medieval head. Try reading Sophie's World by Jostein Gaarder.

Try conveying a point instead of recommending books you probably don't understand yourself.
If God is chaos, why are you recommending that i read a book which is an orderly set of words, the complete opposite of chaos...

[Tuerto]

Re: George Carlin religion

In fairness, you've just summed it up beautifully using less time and energy than one of my tomes! It's no wonder I'm knackered all the time!

You're a demon!

[Tuerto]

Re: George Carlin religion

I think you are totally missing the point.

I probably am....

[bigjoe]

Re: George Carlin religion

... It's a joke really and why debating the existence of God is a waste of time .

Couldn't agree more. Though I'd happily chip in for either side for a couple of pints.

[bigjoe]

Re: George Carlin religion

One man's immigration is another's Exodus I suppose.

Very good

[Baloo]

Re: George Carlin religion

Don't start me on evolution, another irrational system.
If you believe in evolution, explain how a bumble bee will continually grow a wing that had no practical use until 75% complete.
Why, under natural selection would a bee keep selecting for an adaptation that has no use. A 1% Bee wing has no use so why keep selecting for it over generations?

Evolution doesn’t have foresight. Earlier wings could have been used for rowing and skimming across the surface of water. Some insects still use wings primarily for this purpose today. Natural selection could then result in improved propulsion efficiency and techniques over time to a stage where some insects evolved to spontaneously hop off the surface of water - and these inherited advantageous traits resulted in descendants eventually adapting further to winged-based flight. So wings used for other purposes by ancestors eventually adapted for flight through opportunity and evolutionary advantage, not with flight in mind from the outset.

[Lither_1927]

Re: George Carlin religion

Evolution doesn’t have foresight. Earlier wings could have been used for rowing and skimming across the surface of water. Some insects still use wings primarily for this purpose today. Natural selection could then result in improved propulsion efficiency and techniques over time to a stage where some insects evolved to spontaneously hop off the surface of water - and these inherited advantageous traits resulted in descendants eventually adapting further to winged-based flight. So wings used for other purposes by ancestors eventually adapted for flight through opportunity and evolutionary advantage, not with flight in mind from the outset.

Hello Baloo. I don't think Bee's wings were used for rowing or skimming across water. If they were, they'd still be able to do it today. They'd also be placed lower on the body enabling actual contact with water. And the wing material would be more like a flipper.
Also, wouldn't it be a huge co incidence that an appendage supposedly perfectly adapted for "paddling" in water, is also perfect for flight.
These are harsh Darwinian selective pressures, the idea that a bee's wing was continually selected for because it could "paddle a bit" is a bit flimsy.

From what i gather, you accept that God could exist.
With that in mind he could be responsible for creating all human life.
When Quantum physicists suggest that we are living in a hologram, are part of parallel universes or that our whole existence is a complex mathematical equation being played out in a pre ordained fashion(God). Anything is possible, what ever the truth it will be absolutely mind blowing. I just wish people would open their minds a bit