George Carlin religion

[Lither_1927]

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Humanism can offer all of that without the supernatural.

Nonesense. Humanism doesn't explain why we are here or concern itself with a creator.

[Lither_1927]

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So you believe that God created the earth for humankind but you're not happy about sharing the bit you happened to be born in with people of a different colour to you? What do you think God's take on that attitude would be then?

Oh **** off you sniping midwit. You offer literally nothing. I'd hate to be you.

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Oh **** off you sniping midwit. You offer literally nothing. I'd hate to be you.

It was a fair question, answer it

[Baloo]

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Nonesense. Humanism doesn't explain why we are here or concern itself with a creator.

It would be bizarre for Humanists to concern themselves with a creator. Your post was about values - religion doesn’t speak exclusively about that and the supernatural isn’t a prerequisite to live a good and meaningful live.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Outside the world of nature, science has no authority, no statements to make, no business whatsoever taking one position or another. Science has nothing decisive to say about values, whether economic, aesthetic or moral; nothing to say about the meaning of life or its purpose.
Religion on the other hand does have something to say about these matters, your suggestion that science is incompatible with religion is pure bollocks.
Yes there have been many religions but they all believe in a creator, which seems deeply embedded into our DNA.
Atheism isn't normal, clever or correct. It's irrational.

As I have stated before, science means knowledge, pure and simple. It's a search to find out what is true.
Knowledge has no bias nor any statement to make and as out knowledge improves so does our best stab at understanding the universe and what's in it.
Religion is heaving with fanciful recycled myths and unsubstantiated absurdities.
As for atheism not being "normal, clever or correct" that's quite hilarious when set against religious stories.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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A recent study finds that people who regularly attend religious services live approximately four years longer than average. Researchers built the study from previous data suggesting that social interaction, volunteer work, and healthy habits can lead to a longer life.

I think that feeling part of a community helps one's mental state enormously - and it could very well be that believing in a deity does help one similarly.

[jeepster]

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Oh **** off you sniping midwit. You offer literally nothing. I'd hate to be you.

After that,are you happy with your life.

[bigjoe]

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Why do you place science in conflict with religion. Science seeks to answer the question of "how?" Religion answers the question of "why?"

76% of Dr's believe in God.

https://www.medicaleconomics.com/vie...-belief-in-god

I guess doctors see the apparent randomness of treatments working for some and not others and cases of people living while they "shouldn't".

We came from somewhere. The existence of a greater being would be a logical idea as to from where and how.

Christianity, at least, (I'm ignorant of other religions), can anyway easily reconcile the idea of creation. The "big bang" in physics came from work by Georges Lemaître, a Belgian cosmologist and Catholic priest. People had realised that the universe seemed to be expanding. Working backwards for the idea that the universe is bigger today than it was yesterday, he put forward the idea that going back far enough in time we come to the point of the creation of the universe.

Following on from some other thread, I recall something like "belief is divine, religion is man-made"

[Lither_1927]

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As I have stated before, science means knowledge, pure and simple. It's a search to find out what is true.
Knowledge has no bias nor any statement to make and as out knowledge improves so does our best stab at understanding the universe and what's in it.
Religion is heaving with fanciful recycled myths and unsubstantiated absurdities.
As for atheism not being "normal, clever or correct" that's quite hilarious when set against religious stories.

You keep pre occupying yourself with the veracity of allegorical "myths"..... I don't mean this question as a criticism, it's certainly not a criticism but are you on the autistic spectrum? This may explain why you're a tad stuck on whether a myth is true or merely allegorical.

Atheist believe live occurred from a random bang and life is essentially meaningless. That's irrational and short sighted. You aren't the reasonable one in this discussion.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Salt Lake City?

Atheism isn't normal, you essentially believe the world was created by a random bang and that life is meaningless. That's not normal, rational or healthy for living a life.
No wonder you appear mentally unstable a lot of the time.
Your claim that 3% of Dr's believe in God is absolute nonesense.

But totally rational that you’re invisible friend in the sky did it? Haha

[Lither_1927]

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It would be bizarre for Humanists to concern themselves with a creator. Your post was about values - religion doesn’t speak exclusively about that and the supernatural isn’t a prerequisite to live a good and meaningful live.

Humanism assumes people are instrinsically good and will choose positive paths for their lives. A mistake.
Also, if humanism doesn't concern itself with a creator why bother setting it against religion, there's there's no competition.

[Lither_1927]

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But totally rational that you’re invisible friend in the sky did it? Haha

Well, using the laws of science, you can NOT create something from nothing. It's a scientific impossibility. Your belief is irrational. Is this fresh news to you?

[Tito Fuente]

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Well, using the laws of science, you can NOT create something from nothing. It's a scientific impossibility. Your belief is irrational. Is this fresh news to you?

Who created God?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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You keep pre occupying yourself with the veracity of allegorical "myths"..... I don't mean this question as a criticism, it's certainly not a criticism but are you on the autistic spectrum? This may explain why you're a tad stuck on whether a myth is true or merely allegorical.

Atheist believe live occurred from a random bang and life is essentially meaningless. That's irrational and short sighted. You aren't the reasonable one in this discussion.

Thanks for the question about my mental health and for moving the debate to what my lay-preacher friend refers to as the 'pick and mix' fraternity. He is a fundamentalist and and once one concedes that part of a religion is allegory it's a very rocky path. He has left several congregations because they draw the line at allegory in different places and modern-day Archbishops and Popes pick and mix in different places similarly. If part of a religion is conceded as allegory, who is to say what isn't allegory and myth?
However, it's clear that you aren't someone who can debate things in a civilised manner and that you engage in unneccesary ad hominem remarks (such as referring to my mental state) so I won't bother engaging with you. May your God bless you.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Well, using the laws of science, you can NOT create something from nothing. It's a scientific impossibility. Your belief is irrational. Is this fresh news to you?

So who created god? And what the hell was he doing before he thought, “I’ll create earth and make people suffer for a laugh”