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  • #31
    Re: George Carlin religion

    Originally posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
    Would you change your mind if it was Kate Humble?
    She was great pre op

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    • #32
      Re: George Carlin religion

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      Well I think that is the winning card

      Fry sums it up perfectly

      Why would God create a world so full of pain and suffering ? And the only way to get out of it is to pray to him ?

      Give me liz hurley feeding me grapes in a dress , Sabbath on the sound system
      You 'speak' as if there were just one god and that the deity concerned was 'male' . There have been thousands through the history of mankind: male, female, animals, mythical creatures and a lot else.

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      • #33
        Re: George Carlin religion

        Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
        You 'speak' as if there were just one god and that the deity concerned was 'male' . There have been thousands through the history of mankind: male, female, animals, mythical creatures and a lot else.
        Yeah but when a conversation about....God......comes up on here or down the pub .......we generally accept its the Abraham god with the white beard that's being discussed

        Are we speaking the same language ? 🤔

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        • #34
          Re: George Carlin religion

          Originally posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
          I believe in divinity but not a god.
          Originally posted by Baloo View Post
          Can you explain what that means?
          It's a job to as I'm not certain myself! I don't believe in a supreme being, we are all as good as it gets and all as good as each other. There is a high degree of pure spontaneous chaos to life - it would be obviously wrong to hold it out as an absolute that if you do go in life, that success is guaranteed - too many people suffer in the world for that to be an absolute, yet however indeed there can be some correlation in "living right" (doing your level best in all, and not meaning to cause harm) - "doing the right things - and things going well for you. So divinity to me in some sense to use small example is when I take myself out on a 5 mile run I tend to see a lot of Robins up close - to me I tell myself that is a sort of divinity as they are my favourite bird and particularly personal me to a person no longer with us loved them too - I tell myself when I see them it's a result/reward of my getting my arse in gear and doing the right thing. So you may say, if I believe in a divinity how can I not believe in a god which put some kind of intelligent design to it all. Well, damn for a start I don't know for sure either way and frankly I don't sweat it (it also ends up monetarily a lot cheaper that way). I just get on with life - doing the right things as best as I can; however given i do believe there is something sort of divine, I believe it is not through a creator but through ourselves and through our energies - in a way we kind of cant fully comprehend or are not fully aware of .

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          • #35
            Re: George Carlin religion

            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
            Yeah but when a conversation about....God......comes up on here or down the pub .......we generally accept its the Abraham god with the white beard that's being discussed

            Are we speaking the same language ? 🤔
            You don't want to be as parochial as your detractors

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            • #36
              Re: George Carlin religion

              Originally posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
              It's a job to as I'm not certain myself! I don't believe in a supreme being, we are all as good as it gets and all as good as each other. There is a high degree of pure spontaneous chaos to life - it would be obviously wrong to hold it out as an absolute that if you do go in life, that success is guaranteed - too many people suffer in the world for that to be an absolute, yet however indeed there can be some correlation in "living right" (doing your level best in all, and not meaning to cause harm) - "doing the right things - and things going well for you. So divinity to me in some sense to use small example is when I take myself out on a 5 mile run I tend to see a lot of Robins up close - to me I tell myself that is a sort of divinity as they are my favourite bird and particularly personal me to a person no longer with us loved them too - I tell myself when I see them it's a result/reward of my getting my arse in gear and doing the right thing. So you may say, if I believe in a divinity how can I not believe in a god which put some kind of intelligent design to it all. Well, damn for a start I don't know for sure either way and frankly I don't sweat it (it also ends up monetarily a lot cheaper that way). I just get on with life - doing the right things as best as I can; however given i do believe there is something sort of divine, I believe it is not through a creator but through ourselves and through our energies - in a way we kind of cant fully comprehend or are not fully aware of .
              That's all very romantic but it doesn't stop some dirty stinking cat pouncing on your Robin and chewing it to bits

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              • #37
                Re: George Carlin religion

                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                That's all very romantic but it doesn't stop some dirty stinking cat pouncing on your Robin and chewing it to bits
                Tends to be on the taff trail so don't see many cats about so hasn't happened yet.

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                • #38
                  Re: George Carlin religion

                  Originally posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
                  It's a job to as I'm not certain myself! I don't believe in a supreme being, we are all as good as it gets and all as good as each other. There is a high degree of pure spontaneous chaos to life - it would be obviously wrong to hold it out as an absolute that if you do go in life, that success is guaranteed - too many people suffer in the world for that to be an absolute, yet however indeed there can be some correlation in "living right" (doing your level best in all, and not meaning to cause harm) - "doing the right things - and things going well for you. So divinity to me in some sense to use small example is when I take myself out on a 5 mile run I tend to see a lot of Robins up close - to me I tell myself that is a sort of divinity as they are my favourite bird and particularly personal me to a person no longer with us loved them too - I tell myself when I see them it's a result/reward of my getting my arse in gear and doing the right thing. So you may say, if I believe in a divinity how can I not believe in a god which put some kind of intelligent design to it all. Well, damn for a start I don't know for sure either way and frankly I don't sweat it (it also ends up monetarily a lot cheaper that way). I just get on with life - doing the right things as best as I can; however given i do believe there is something sort of divine, I believe it is not through a creator but through ourselves and through our energies - in a way we kind of cant fully comprehend or are not fully aware of .
                  OK, thanks for trying to explain.

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                  • #39
                    Re: George Carlin religion

                    Originally posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
                    Tends to be on the taff trail so don't see many cats about so hasn't happened yet.
                    They are waiting

                    They are Satan

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                    • #40
                      Re: George Carlin religion

                      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                      They are waiting

                      They are Satan
                      No such thing imo

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                      • #41
                        Re: George Carlin religion

                        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                        She was great pre op
                        She was originally a bloke? 😕

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                        • #42
                          Re: George Carlin religion

                          It's quite amusing that believers think that deities physically resemble human beings whether they be male or female.
                          Deities presumably wouldn't have a navel, sexual organs or physiology that evolved in one particular species millions of years after the deity created the universe.
                          Our physical appearance is the result of conditions on one particular planet with a specific chemical environment, within certain temperature bands and with a defined level of gravity.
                          We homo sapiens are an extreme latecomer to the party in evolutionary terms and we may well go extinct - so why a deity would think so far in advance to mirror a certain species at a particular window in time on one particular planet is truly ridiculous.
                          Deities are man-made but if one existed it could be, for all we know: sexless, weightless, lacking in physical form, colourless and just a wisp of gas that can exist anywhere in the known universe.
                          Our deities who supposedly created the universe and who resemble blokes before razor blades were invented or with elephant heads represent parochialism in extremis.

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                          • #43
                            Re: George Carlin religion

                            Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                            It's quite amusing that believers think that deities physically resemble human beings whether they be male or female.
                            Deities presumably wouldn't have a navel, sexual organs or physiology that evolved in one particular species millions of years after the deity created the universe.
                            Our physical appearance is the result of conditions on one particular planet with a specific chemical environment, within certain temperature bands and with a defined level of gravity.
                            We homo sapiens are an extreme latecomer to the party in evolutionary terms and we may well go extinct - so why a deity would think so far in advance to mirror a certain species at a particular window in time on one particular planet is truly ridiculous.
                            Deities are man-made but if one existed it could be, for all we know: sexless, weightless, lacking in physical form, colourless and just a wisp of gas that can exist anywhere in the known universe.
                            Our deities who supposedly created the universe and who resemble blokes before razor blades were invented or with elephant heads represent parochialism in extremis.
                            My sexual organs were definitely created by a god

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                            • #44
                              Re: George Carlin religion

                              Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                              It's quite amusing that believers think that deities physically resemble human beings whether they be male or female.
                              Deities presumably wouldn't have a navel, sexual organs or physiology that evolved in one particular species millions of years after the deity created the universe.
                              Our physical appearance is the result of conditions on one particular planet with a specific chemical environment, within certain temperature bands and with a defined level of gravity.
                              We homo sapiens are an extreme latecomer to the party in evolutionary terms and we may well go extinct - so why a deity would think so far in advance to mirror a certain species at a particular window in time on one particular planet is truly ridiculous.
                              Deities are man-made but if one existed it could be, for all we know: sexless, weightless, lacking in physical form, colourless and just a wisp of gas that can exist anywhere in the known universe.
                              Our deities who supposedly created the universe and who resemble blokes before razor blades were invented or with elephant heads represent parochialism in extremis.
                              God created man in his own image. So he's multiracial and bi-sexual. His pronouns are they/them/theirs.

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                              • #45
                                Re: George Carlin religion

                                Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                                It's quite amusing that believers think that deities physically resemble human beings whether they be male or female.
                                Deities presumably wouldn't have a navel, sexual organs or physiology that evolved in one particular species millions of years after the deity created the universe.
                                Our physical appearance is the result of conditions on one particular planet with a specific chemical environment, within certain temperature bands and with a defined level of gravity.
                                We homo sapiens are an extreme latecomer to the party in evolutionary terms and we may well go extinct - so why a deity would think so far in advance to mirror a certain species at a particular window in time on one particular planet is truly ridiculous.
                                Deities are man-made but if one existed it could be, for all we know: sexless, weightless, lacking in physical form, colourless and just a wisp of gas that can exist anywhere in the known universe.
                                Our deities who supposedly created the universe and who resemble blokes before razor blades were invented or with elephant heads represent parochialism in extremis.
                                Like many others, you do a lot of talking about a deity that you are (supposedly) convinced doesn't exist.
                                And for the record, YHWH has as much to do with the idea of evolution as you employ logic.
                                Great laugh for a Monday morning though - so very welcome

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