New Party on the Left

[Dorcus]

Re: New Party on the Left

And why do they feel that way?
If you talk to youngsters these days they are very well informed on most things. Politics, environment,gender stuff.
I spoke to one and they said that they won't vote because it doesn't matter who you vote for nothing really changes.I was a bit shocked.
People have fought fought right to vote. But that's how many feel.

In my opinion youngsters today are generally much more grown up and educated than similar cohorts ever have been in the past. I also think they have a different moral compass, are less deferential to authority for the sake of it and are far more critically attuned to the way of the World.

For youngsters these days a clear ethical code in politics and the economy is paramount; mere pragmatism is insufficient and dubious. Quite rightly in my opinion I believe younger generations are seeking a radical new approach and the traditional political outlook is increasingly becoming unappealing to them.

[Dorcus]

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Memberships are now open. I've already joined and have offered interest to be a facilitator. Anything to stop this odious march toward ultra-capitalist fascism.

Well done 👍

[Elwood Blues]

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Apparently the email and associated website offering Your party membership for £55 was set up by Zarah Sultana and has not been agreed with Jeremy Corbyn and others.


Corbyn has told people to cancel their direct debits and ignore the website.

He is threatening Legal action.

She has accused the others of running a boys club

[Coyote]

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Apparently the email and associated website offering Your party membership for £55 was set up by Zarah Sultana and has not been agreed with Jeremy Corbyn and others.


Corbyn has told people to cancel their direct debits and ignore the website.

He is threatening Legal action.

She has accused the others of running a boys club

Saw the emails. Absolutely pathetic that the left can't stop its infighting for a moment as pivotal and important to get right as this. Omnishambles.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Saw the emails. Absolutely pathetic that the left can't stop its infighting for a moment as pivotal and important to get right as this. Omnishambles.

BBC News - Corbyn and Sultana clash over new party membership

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgkn3v1e7g3o

Complete clown show

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Apparently the email and associated website offering Your party membership for £55 was set up by Zarah Sultana and has not been agreed with Jeremy Corbyn and others.


Corbyn has told people to cancel their direct debits and ignore the website.

He is threatening Legal action.

She has accused the others of running a boys club

BBC News - Corbyn and Sultana clash over new party membership

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgkn3v1e7g3o

Good grief ��

[chrisp_1927]

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Zara's having a tantrum again. Hope it doesn't make her voice even more whiny. Absolutely fantastic 🤣🤣

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Zara's having a tantrum again. Hope it doesn't make her voice even more whiny. Absolutely fantastic 🤣🤣

I would hope that somehow Labour get rid of Starmer and make some sort of comeback.and a coalition can be made with the greens and lib dems


Lib dems have a 15 percent polling so they should be first choice

Surely that's a better goal than all this division it's both embarrassing and funny what a bunch of amatuers

On Facebook some of your party supporters are suggesting a zionist plot to split them

Ffsake

[JamesWales]

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Just read both of their statements on twitter. I feel a bit sorry for Corbyn tbh, and that's saying something.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Just read both of their statements on twitter. I feel a bit sorry for Corbyn tbh, and that's saying something.

Absolute car crash

I always thought it was about egos and power struggles

Well I suppose the good news is that they might be dead in the water and it gives labour a chance to get starmer to walk the plank and maybe get some sort of decent leader in

Splitting the anti reform vote between labour , corbynavich , greens and lib dems is always a dead end

[jon1959]

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If this ia a car crash it is the second one in a few months - and exposes more of the (inevitable) tensions in an emerging new party.

It may be a breakdown in relationships that can’t be repaired - I hope not.

From the outside (though a supporter and donor) it looks like Corbyn is dragging his feet again and Sultana is trying to force movement.

There is also a difference around central control (Corbyn) and member led (Sultana), as well as social conservatism in the Independent Group v greater radicalism from Sultana and her ‘faction’.

I am much more impressed by Sultana so far for her clarity and political courage. Corbyn has his strengths, but decisiveness is not one of them - and his constant avoidance of conflict in almost any situation leads to bad compromises.

Hopefully, when/if the party is launched it will not be all about a central personality and organisational clash. It has to be something else than a Corbyn and/or Sultana support group. No egos.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: New Party on the Left

If this ia a car crash it is the second one in a few months - and exposes more of the (inevitable) tensions in an emerging new party.

It may be a breakdown in relationships that canÂ’t be repaired - I hope not.

From the outside (though a supporter and donor) it looks like Corbyn is dragging his feet again and Sultana is trying to force movement.

There is also a difference around central control (Corbyn) and member led (Sultana), as well as social conservatism in the Independent Group v greater radicalism from Sultana and her ‘faction’.

I am much more impressed by Sultana so far for her clarity and political courage. Corbyn has his strengths, but decisiveness is not one of them - and his constant avoidance of conflict in almost any situation leads to bad compromises.

Hopefully, when/if the party is launched it will not be all about a central personality and organisational clash. It has to be something else than a Corbyn and/or Sultana support group. No egos.

Last night Reform won Trowbridge Cardiff

Labour 600 odd

Lib Dems 600 odd

Plaid 300

Reform sneak in via the back door

Split vote when they should be working together v the most serious challenge of all ....BNP in all but name!

I am amazed this bickering and division is happening

This is a portent

[jon1959]

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Last night Reform won Trowbridge Cardiff

Labour 600 odd

Lib Dems 600 odd

Plaid 300

Reform sneak in via the back door

Split vote when they should be working together v the most serious challenge of all ....BNP in all but name!

I am amazed this bickering and division is happening

This is a portent

I have no problem with electoral pacts to avoid split votes where Reform might otherwise win the seat.

But that doesn’t mean there has to be an incoherent political race to the bottom. You are constantly calling for parties to combine when they have sod all in common.

The Lib Dems are Yellow Tories in my part of the world. Labour under Starmer are trying to mimic Reform. The ‘real’ Tories are imploding. The Greens have taken a sharp turn to the left.

The new party meets a need - and if they work with the Greens and nationalists should aim not to split the anti Reform vote but offer an alternative that takes votes from them as well as Labour. It is not a zero sum game.

It isn’t all about elections either.

[jon1959]

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https://www.thecanary.co/skwawkbox/2025/09/18/your-party-membership/?__s=hheshtdmarsdn8syijsb

[Eric Cartman]

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Labour under Starmer are trying to mimic Reform

I get the sentiment, but I think if Reform win the next election you are going to find out how far from accurate that actually is.