New Party on the Left

[Wales-Bales]

Re: New Party on the Left

Zarah Sultana told attendees at the Northern March for Your Party that:

'Millions are fed up, and so they should be. In fact, they should be ****ing furious

Current affairs?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Last thing we need in wales is your party sticking their nose in and splitting the vote further now we can vote plaid

[jon1959]

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Last thing we need in wales is your party sticking their nose in and splitting the vote further now we can vote plaid

I was listening to a New Statesman podcast earlier this week - which was a long discussion with James Schneider, one time bag carrier for Corbyn and one of the main organisers of Your Party. The whole thing was interesting and informative - but towards the end they got onto the approach of Your Party to The Greens under Zack Polanski. It isn't Your Party (whatever it is finally called) policy (yet) but Schneider sketched out his preferred approach around collaboration and electoral pacts. He suggested that the two parties (and maybe some others) should try out joint primaries to select candidates for the mayoral elections the year before the next General Election - so that the best person from a pool (he suggest two YP and two Greens) is selected and all the parties in the process get behind the winner. That involves party members and supporters from the start and avoids reliance on tactical voting decisions by individual voters.

I don't know if that will happen (and be extended to the GE) but the fact it has been discussed so openly so early suggests it might. If it does the 'splitting the vote' argument Sludge constantly makes becomes an irrelevance.

[Dorcus]

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I was listening to a New Statesman podcast earlier this week - which was a long discussion with James Schneider, one time bag carrier for Corbyn and one of the main organisers of Your Party. The whole thing was interesting and informative - but towards the end they got onto the approach of Your Party to The Greens under Zack Polanski. It isn't Your Party (whatever it is finally called) policy (yet) but Schneider sketched out his preferred approach around collaboration and electoral pacts. He suggested that the two parties (and maybe some others) should try out joint primaries to select candidates for the mayoral elections the year before the next General Election - so that the best person from a pool (he suggest two YP and two Greens) is selected and all the parties in the process get behind the winner. That involves party members and supporters from the start and avoids reliance on tactical voting decisions by individual voters.

I don't know if that will happen (and be extended to the GE) but the fact it has been discussed so openly so early suggests it might. If it does the 'splitting the vote' argument Sludge constantly makes becomes an irrelevance.

I don't think there will be any "splitting the vote" come the next election. It will be all out war against Reform. It will be The Alamo all over again.

[jon1959]

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I don't think there will be any "splitting the vote" come the next election. It will be all out war against Reform. It will be The Alamo all over again.

I have spent at least 5 minutes trying to think that one through - and failed!

Are Reform the Mexicans under Santa Ana, or the Texans under Travis, Bowie and Crockett?

After a 13 day siege the 200 odd Texans (and friends) in the Alamo were wiped out.

Somehow I can't imagine Reform as either an overwhelming force of victorious Mexicans, or as an heroic (in their myth making) and doomed group represented by John Wayne, Richard Widmark and Laurence Harvey.

Nigel Farage, Richard Tice and 30p Lee Anderson are more of a Carry On cast.

The Battle of Endor is a better analogy - where the Rebel Alliance defeats the Galactic Empire?

I'm giving this too much thought........!

[Dorcus]

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I have spent at least 5 minutes trying to think that one through - and failed!

Are Reform the Mexicans under Santa Ana, or the Texans under Travis, Bowie and Crockett?

After a 13 day siege the 200 odd Texans (and friends) in the Alamo were wiped out.

Somehow I can't imagine Reform as either an overwhelming force of victorious Mexicans, or as an heroic (in their myth making) and doomed group represented by John Wayne, Richard Widmark and Laurence Harvey.

Nigel Farage, Richard Tice and 30p Lee Anderson are more of a Carry On cast.

The Battle of Endor is a better analogy - where the Rebel Alliance defeats the Galactic Empire?

I'm giving this too much thought........!

Yes maybe I was being too poetic. They're not the 300 Spartans either. Somehow I can't see 'our Nige" as Leonidas.

[JamesWales]

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Given the working class demographic of their support, and the desire to sweep away the old guard, Les Mis perhaps?

[Dorcus]

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Given the working class demographic of their support, and the desire to sweep away the old guard, Les Mis perhaps?

Too left wing. More like Krystalnacht

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I was listening to a New Statesman podcast earlier this week - which was a long discussion with James Schneider, one time bag carrier for Corbyn and one of the main organisers of Your Party. The whole thing was interesting and informative - but towards the end they got onto the approach of Your Party to The Greens under Zack Polanski. It isn't Your Party (whatever it is finally called) policy (yet) but Schneider sketched out his preferred approach around collaboration and electoral pacts. He suggested that the two parties (and maybe some others) should try out joint primaries to select candidates for the mayoral elections the year before the next General Election - so that the best person from a pool (he suggest two YP and two Greens) is selected and all the parties in the process get behind the winner. That involves party members and supporters from the start and avoids reliance on tactical voting decisions by individual voters.

I don't know if that will happen (and be extended to the GE) but the fact it has been discussed so openly so early suggests it might. If it does the 'splitting the vote' argument Sludge constantly makes becomes an irrelevance.

Well quite frankly I would vote for a tin of peas if it kept out reform

Everything else in whatever order is irrelevant and if voting for corbyn had to be done to defeat NF consider me in but it would only be loan

[JamesWales]

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Too left wing. More like Krystalnacht

Hey we are talking about Reform here!

If you want to come up with Your Party examples then start a new thread! 😜

[Dorcus]

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Hey we are talking about Reform here!

If you want to come up with Your Party examples then start a new thread! 😜

I thought you were talking about Reform. Go on then let's have Les Mis or even Les Dawson

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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The time it's taking to name the new entity is becoming is a bit of a farce. Abigail's Party perhaps.

[jon1959]

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The time it's taking to name the new entity is becoming is a bit of a farce. Abigail's Party perhaps.

The founding conference has been organised for 29 and 30 November in Liverpool. The party name will come out of that.

https://www.yourparty.uk/conference

[Elwood Blues]

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The founding conference has been organised for 29 and 30 November in Liverpool. The party name will come out of that.

https://www.yourparty.uk/conference

Do you know what their actual membership is now Jon?

[jon1959]

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Do you know what their actual membership is now Jon?

I haven't seen any reliable figures.

Over 20,000 people joined up via the portal promoted by Sultana - that led to the fall out with Corbyn (then the make up with Corbyn). In typical fashion they are all members but their details are not yet accessible to Your Party! Since then there have been almost 6 weeks of the replacement (and working!) membership portal in operation. I have not seen any reported membership figures for people who have joined via that route.

Over 800,000 people registered an interest in Your Party over the summer.

13,000 members will be selected by ballot to take part in the founding conference in Liverpool at the end of November.

The Greens have doubled their membership to 150,000 since Zack Polanski was elected as leader - and some of those might have otherwise become Your Party members.

Party rules will prevent membership of other political parties as well as Your Party.

When membership figures are finally announced I would expect them to be in the 100,000 - 250,000 range. But that is just a guess.