Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

[Pearcey3]

Re: Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

Totally agree 👍 pigs at the trough springs to mind. No one could ever level that accusation against Jeremy.

That's it. Pigs in the trough. They aren't in it for the greater good but to get as much out of it as possible. Blair being the perfect example

[Pearcey3]

Re: Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

Hes far left , feck him and feck you

Still can't answer my question. **** you too.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

That's it. Pigs in the trough. They aren't in it for the greater good but to get as much out of it as possible. Blair being the perfect example

Ok instead of an electable middle ground leader ....burnham is obviously too right wing for you library socialist......lets elect a left wing candidate like rayner and see the moderates who might get us over the line ....completely vanish !

Years of glorious opposition ......but at least you have got your principles !

Get stuffed dinosaurs

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

Still can't answer my question. **** you too.

Feck off back to reading

[PontBlue]

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In my view. this is more serious than Partygate. wrong though that was.

I couldn't think of a better example.

[PontBlue]

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They are both wrong in different ways but also equally serious in different ways. Peter Mandelson is your archetypal Tory, how he was accepted into the Labour fold is incredible. He was a wrong 'un from the very start.

This was a straight up job interview albeit for a very high profile job.

The only criticisms that can be leveled at the interview panel are:

Were the interview questions probing enough?
Were there any sources they could have consulted to screen the candidate but didn't or ignored?
Did they act decisively once they found the candidate had been dishonest in their interview?

[Dorcus]

Re: Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

This was a straight up job interview albeit for a very high profile job.

The only criticisms that can be leveled at the interview panel are:

Were the interview questions probing enough?
Were there any sources they could have consulted to screen the candidate but didn't or ignored?
Did they act decisively once they found the candidate had been dishonest in their interview?

But wouldn't the name Peter Mandelson, "The Prince of Darkness" have represented a red flag from the outset? My contention is that no self respecting Labour leader should have had any dealings with him. Keir Starmer should have been a lot more circumspect.

[Pearcey3]

Re: Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

This was a straight up job interview albeit for a very high profile job.

The only criticisms that can be leveled at the interview panel are:

Were the interview questions probing enough?
Were there any sources they could have consulted to screen the candidate but didn't or ignored?
Did they act decisively once they found the candidate had been dishonest in their interview?

You also have to take into account their previous employment record. Would you hire someone for a high profile job who had been previously sacked twice for dishonesty and had stayed in the flat of a convicted sex trafficker of a minor?

[PontBlue]

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But wouldn't the name Peter Mandelson, "The Prince of Darkness" have represented a red flag from the outset? My contention is that no self respecting Labour leader should have had any dealings with him. Keir Starmer should have been a lot more circumspect.

That would/should have been covered by my second question.

[jon1959]

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Stop trying to twist what I say to suit your agenda. At no point have I said a global trafficking and child sex issue is about the left and right of the Labour Party. However it is very revealing that prominent members of new Labour like Mandelson, Blair and Watson mix with those sordid people who are in the Epstein Files. It says everything about their lack of morals.

Exactly this.

It is not just about morals or what they would like to present as 'poor judgement' either. There is a grouping of right wing Labour politicians and administrators who control the party organisation, who dictate who can stand as a candidate, and who (despite what may be agreed in the hollowed out party conference) dictate policy.

They have their feet in the worst of Blairism and they dance to the tunes of donors and lobbyists. They define themselves by opposition to 'the left' (and have a particular hatred for Jewish socialists who expose their complicity with Israeli genocide). They are operators who hold the Labour membership and the public in contempt and have an inflated view of their own abilities and vision. They have settled on a personality devoid leader with record breaking levels of U turns who is also a serial liar.

They would be happy to swap to another of their Labour Together inner circle: Streeting, Mahmood, Nandy or Reed. But the shadow of Blair, and the influence of donors and lobbyists will continue if Starmer is dumped and replaced by one of them. Their immorality and willingness to promote Mandelson again - despite the record and the security reports - is sickening but not surprising.

[Eric Cartman]

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But wouldn't the name Peter Mandelson, "The Prince of Darkness" have represented a red flag from the outset? My contention is that no self respecting Labour leader should have had any dealings with him. Keir Starmer should have been a lot more circumspect.

Yes.

I don't think you can just lie your way through enhanced vetting and pass it, so I can't see how they haven't just chose to ignore what they were told and appoint him anyway.

At the time I thought it was a decent appoint, a sneaky snake to deal with a difficult brief but that is at such a basic level and without knowing what is clear now.

The problem with politics is that an effective person is more useful than a moral person.

As for the thread title, possibly.

[jon1959]

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Oh spare me the lecture. I am well aware of the disgusting revelations in the Epstein Files. What I'm loving is that rotten scumbags like Mandelson are getting the comeuppance they so richly deserve. The same applies to all the other bastards who have inflicted so much pain onto their victims. They all need to pay for their criminality and I will LOVE it when that happens.
So stick your pious nonsense up your arse.

When it comes to pious nonsense there is a strange double act emerging in this thread. Sludge and James - the Ed Davey and Nigel Farage of the board creating a dogs breakfast of populist centralism and getting both confused and triggered by any reference to principled progressive politics (now to be known as 'Radical Leftism' in tribute to Trump).

Not seen anything like it since Tony Benn and William Hague went on tour with a flask of tea, tea mugs and one pipe!

[Pearcey3]

Re: Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

Exactly this.

It is not just about morals or what they would like to present as 'poor judgement' either. There is a grouping of right wing Labour politicians and administrators who control the party organisation, who dictate who can stand as a candidate, and who (despite what may be agreed in the hollowed out party conference) dictate policy.

They have their feet in the worst of Blairism and they dance to the tunes of donors and lobbyists. They define themselves by opposition to 'the left' (and have a particular hatred for Jewish socialists who expose their complicity with Israeli genocide). They are operators who hold the Labour membership and the public in contempt and have an inflated view of their own abilities and vision. They have settled on a personality devoid leader with record breaking levels of U turns who is also a serial liar.

They would be happy to swap to another of their Labour Together inner circle: Streeting, Mahmood, Nandy or Reed. But the shadow of Blair, and the influence of donors and lobbyists will continue if Starmer is dumped and replaced by one of them. Their immorality and willingness to promote Mandelson again - despite the record and the security reports - is sickening but not surprising.

Yep more Jewish members of the party were booted out under Starmer than under Corbyn. What really concerns me now is that Starmer has gifted Palantir with our NHS data. This firm provide info to the IDF and ICE. Their owner Peter Thiel is not very keen on democracy and is mentioned hundreds of times in the Epstein Files. Apparently Starmer scheduled a meeting with Palantir on the quiet and it was arranged via Mandelson.

[Pearcey3]

Re: Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

When it comes to pious nonsense there is a strange double act emerging in this thread. Sludge and James - the Ed Davey and Nigel Farage of the board creating a dogs breakfast of populist centralism and getting both confused and triggered by any reference to principled progressive politics (now to be known as 'Radical Leftism' in tribute to Trump).

Not seen anything like it since Tony Benn and William Hague went on tour with a flask of tea, tea mugs and one pipe!

😆

[jon1959]

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Yep more Jewish members of the party were booted out under Starmer than under Corbyn. What really concerns me now is that Starmer has gifted Palantir with our NHS data. This firm provide info to the IDF and ICE. Their owner Peter Thiel is not very keen on democracy and is mentioned hundreds of times in the Epstein Files. Apparently Starmer scheduled a meeting with Palantir on the quiet and it was arranged via Mandelson.

This won't make as many headlines as the Mandelson scandal (they are linked) but it should!

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2026/02/04/palantir-epstein/