Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

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Morgan McSweeney has resigned as Starmer''s chief of staff

100 resignations wont make a fig of difference until starmer is gone and a new leader comes in and pulls up some trees

If its one of the idiots currently part of the furniture .....streeting , rayner , milliband etc then may as well give the job to farage at the next election

[the other bob wilson]

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Morgan McSweeney has resigned as Starmer''s chief of staff

Good riddance, he is someone who has little in common with what Labour stood for when they were a far more electable party than they are now.i think Starmer is kidding himself if he thinks this departure will divert attention from his abysmal political judgment.

[Dorcus]

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Good riddance, he is someone who has little in common with what Labour stood for when they were a far more electable party than they are now.i think Starmer is kidding himself if he thinks this departure will divert attention from his abysmal political judgment.

Mandelson was his mentor; says it all

[Elwood Blues]

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Good riddance, he is someone who has little in common with what Labour stood for when they were a far more electable party than they are now.i think Starmer is kidding himself if he thinks this departure will divert attention from his abysmal political judgment.

Starmer''s probably hopes that McSweeney going will be enough but I have my doubts.

I think it has gone too far and Starmer is in too deeply

[Eric Cartman]

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Starmer''s probably hopes that McSweeney going will be enough but I have my doubts.

I think it has gone too far and Starmer is in too deeply

A lot of the plp are delusional if they think Rayner (HMRC still ongoing), Streeting (firmer connection to mandelson) or Mahmood (not a hope of winning a vote amongst the membership) is going to play out well.

I really don't know where we go from here, but the UK probably deserves the shitshow of the Tory rejects of reform, or the failed actor who didn't know politics existed until his mid 30s, trying to run the country.

You can see on here that nobody has a clue what they actually want, it's all vibes, and the country and media are completely addicted to Westminster drama.

Starmer is increasingly looking like a deer in the headlights though, he desperately needs a win from somewhere and I have no idea where that could possibly come from at this point.

Interesting thought exercise comparing the media coverage and calls for resignation for Starmer (mandelson) and Farage (gill). Not a completely dissimilar situations and for a while it seemed like there was a full on embargo on challenging farage around his lies about his relationship with gill. When you stitch together the pieces from the files around Bannon, Russia, Thiel and Brexit/UK it starts to all look a little bit more than murky.

[Dorcus]

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A lot of the plp are delusional if they think Rayner (HMRC still ongoing), Streeting (firmer connection to mandelson) or Mahmood (not a hope of winning a vote amongst the membership) is going to play out well.

I really don't know where we go from here, but the UK probably deserves the shitshow of the Tory rejects of reform, or the failed actor who didn't know politics existed until his mid 30s, trying to run the country.

You can see on here that nobody has a clue what they actually want, it's all vibes, and the country and media are completely addicted to Westminster drama.

Starmer is increasingly looking like a deer in the headlights though, he desperately needs a win from somewhere and I have no idea where that could possibly come from at this point.

Interesting thought exercise comparing the media coverage and calls for resignation for Starmer (mandelson) and Farage (gill). Not a completely dissimilar situations and for a while it seemed like there was a full on embargo on challenging farage around his lies about his relationship with gill. When you stitch together the pieces from the files around Bannon, Russia, Thiel and Brexit/UK it starts to all look a little bit more than murky.

Apart from a small coterie Starmer is almost universally disliked as a Prime Minister, though that's not to say he's not a decent man. Perhaps the most focused and intense hate is from the majority of his backbenchers so that doesn't bode well for him.

I think he'll limp on till at least May because any challenger will want Starmer to own the likely disastrous local elections result and then he or she can then claim to be making a new start from an embarrassingly low point. My bet is Streeting will take up the cudgel but I'm not sure he'd get enough support from the Parliamentary Party.

I just wonder, with McSweeney gone, is there a new opportunity for Andy Burnham to return as white knight now?

[Heathblue]

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A lot of the plp are delusional if they think Rayner (HMRC still ongoing), Streeting (firmer connection to mandelson) or Mahmood (not a hope of winning a vote amongst the membership) is going to play out well.

I really don't know where we go from here, but the UK probably deserves the shitshow of the Tory rejects of reform, or the failed actor who didn't know politics existed until his mid 30s, trying to run the country.

You can see on here that nobody has a clue what they actually want, it's all vibes, and the country and media are completely addicted to Westminster drama.

Starmer is increasingly looking like a deer in the headlights though, he desperately needs a win from somewhere and I have no idea where that could possibly come from at this point.

Interesting thought exercise comparing the media coverage and calls for resignation for Starmer (mandelson) and Farage (gill). Not a completely dissimilar situations and for a while it seemed like there was a full on embargo on challenging farage around his lies about his relationship with gill. When you stitch together the pieces from the files around Bannon, Russia, Thiel and Brexit/UK it starts to all look a little bit more than murky.

I'd like a non WEF puppet who governs for the UK and not a bunch of globalist oligarchs and I couldn't give a F what colour badge he or she wears.

[jon1959]

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I'd like a non WEF puppet who governs for the UK and not a bunch of globalist oligarchs and I couldn't give a F what colour badge he or she wears.

What does 'governs for the UK' mean?

Genuine question.

Attlee believed he was governing for the UK. Thatcher did. They all claim that - whether or not they are (in Heath-speak) WEF puppets serving the interests of 'globalist oligarchs'.

I don't want a government and Prime Minister in thrall to the corporate donors and lobbyists, or one that sees its roll as a loyal side kick to the USA. But there is a very wide range of meanings to 'governing for the UK'.

Who and what in the UK?

The landlords, the hedge fund managers, the zero hours employers? What about the disabled, the low paid workers with three jobs, the homeless? The range of government policies that cover the full range of social and political differences is vast. Devolution? Tax and spend? Environmental protection? A free health service? Military and policing priorities?

None of those choices depend on a long weekend in Davos. They could all produce very different outcomes by those who 'govern for the UK'.

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A lot of the plp are delusional if they think Rayner (HMRC still ongoing), Streeting (firmer connection to mandelson) or Mahmood (not a hope of winning a vote amongst the membership) is going to play out well.

I really don't know where we go from here, but the UK probably deserves the shitshow of the Tory rejects of reform, or the failed actor who didn't know politics existed until his mid 30s, trying to run the country.

You can see on here that nobody has a clue what they actually want, it's all vibes, and the country and media are completely addicted to Westminster drama.

Starmer is increasingly looking like a deer in the headlights though, he desperately needs a win from somewhere and I have no idea where that could possibly come from at this point.

Interesting thought exercise comparing the media coverage and calls for resignation for Starmer (mandelson) and Farage (gill). Not a completely dissimilar situations and for a while it seemed like there was a full on embargo on challenging farage around his lies about his relationship with gill. When you stitch together the pieces from the files around Bannon, Russia, Thiel and Brexit/UK it starts to all look a little bit more than murky.

The MPs are living in a dream world

Its been laughable to hear these idiots on the radio and the tv saying hes a good man , he can lead us through this , we can win over the voters blah blah blah

Nonsense

He and his team have been woeful and he simply isnt up to the job.....and thats being generous

Theres another Labour MP on radio 5 now saying he can wether this storm ........delusional nonsense

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Apart from a small coterie Starmer is almost universally disliked as a Prime Minister, though that's not to say he's not a decent man. Perhaps the most focused and intense hate is from the majority of his backbenchers so that doesn't bode well for him.

I think he'll limp on till at least May because any challenger will want Starmer to own the likely disastrous local elections result and then he or she can then claim to be making a new start from an embarrassingly low point. My bet is Streeting will take up the cudgel but I'm not sure he'd get enough support from the Parliamentary Party.

I just wonder, with McSweeney gone, is there a new opportunity for Andy Burnham to return as white knight now?

Streeting is shocking please no

[Dorcus]

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Streeting is shocking please no

Agreed

[goats]

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100 resignations wont make a fig of difference until starmer is gone and a new leader comes in and pulls up some trees

If its one of the idiots currently part of the furniture .....streeting , rayner , milliband etc then may as well give the job to farage at the next election

Milliband omg no…..in fact, why not, it would be well funny

[Elwood Blues]

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Another one bites the dust

Tim Allen PM's Director of Communication has now resigned

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Another one bites the dust

Tim Allen PM's Director of Communication has now resigned

Would you vote conservative if it was clear they would do a deal with farage to run the country ?

Because I cant stand the conservatives but IF voting for them locally would stop reform getting into power and lead to anything but a reform government ....probably a coalition of the centre and left ....I would do it

[Heathblue]

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What does 'governs for the UK' mean?

Genuine question.

Attlee believed he was governing for the UK. Thatcher did. They all claim that - whether or not they are (in Heath-speak) WEF puppets serving the interests of 'globalist oligarchs'.

I don't want a government and Prime Minister in thrall to the corporate donors and lobbyists, or one that sees its roll as a loyal side kick to the USA. But there is a very wide range of meanings to 'governing for the UK'.

Who and what in the UK?

The landlords, the hedge fund managers, the zero hours employers? What about the disabled, the low paid workers with three jobs, the homeless? The range of government policies that cover the full range of social and political differences is vast. Devolution? Tax and spend? Environmental protection? A free health service? Military and policing priorities?

None of those choices depend on a long weekend in Davos. They could all produce very different outcomes by those who 'govern for the UK'.

Net Zero wasn't / isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Stopping of new oil drilling licences isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Not being able to get a NHS dentist for months on end isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Waiting two years for an op isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Not dredging canals and rivers isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
The largely Victorian rail network isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
The state of the roads isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
and contrary to your beliefs, i think much of what you mention starts with a long weekend in Davos resulting the the Theresa May's and SIR Kier Starmers of this world.
Keir Starmer made the statement in January 2023, during an interview with Emily Maitlis for The News Agents podcast, while he was attending the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos as Leader of the Opposition. In a quick-fire question segment, Maitlis asked: "You have to choose now between Davos or Westminster." Starmer replied: "Davos."