Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

[jon1959]

Re: Will Mandy bring Down Sir Kier Stazi ?

Net Zero wasn't / isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Stopping of new oil drilling licences isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Not being able to get a NHS dentist for months on end isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Waiting two years for an op isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Not dredging canals and rivers isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
The largely Victorian rail network isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
The state of the roads isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
and contrary to your beliefs, i think much of what you mention starts with a long weekend in Davos resulting the the Theresa May's and SIR Kier Starmers of this world.
Keir Starmer made the statement in January 2023, during an interview with Emily Maitlis for The News Agents podcast, while he was attending the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos as Leader of the Opposition. In a quick-fire question segment, Maitlis asked: "You have to choose now between Davos or Westminster." Starmer replied: "Davos."

I think you're completely wrong on net zero and fossil fuels - the Green New Deal should never have been dumped by Starmer - but of course you are right about properly funding the NHS (including dentistry) and infrastructure investment.

May, Starmer and the rest may well be Davos junkies - but that avoids the question I asked you. There are political choices to be made - and 'governs for the UK' is a totally meaningless and trite slogan. Tax cuts or investment? Public ownership or private profit? Insular flag shagging or internationalism? The environment or the bottom line? Preventing wars and exploitation in the global south or sending gun boats into the Channel to block the consequences?

Policies to benefit the Duke of Westminster or policies to benefit the single mother in Gateshead doing three low paid jobs just to survive?

Your view of what the UK is about (or which people, groups and interests in the UK) are different from mine - but we will both claim to represent them. That is why it comes down to political choices every time.

[Eric Cartman]

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Another one bites the dust

Tim Allen PM's Director of Communication has now resigned

Cue the media saying this is terrible news for Starmer, despite spending months saying their comms are shite.

[Eric Cartman]

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Net Zero wasn't / isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Stopping of new oil drilling licences isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Not being able to get a NHS dentist for months on end isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Waiting two years for an op isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
Not dredging canals and rivers isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
The largely Victorian rail network isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
The state of the roads isn't in the interests of those who live in the UK
and contrary to your beliefs, i think much of what you mention starts with a long weekend in Davos resulting the the Theresa May's and SIR Kier Starmers of this world.
Keir Starmer made the statement in January 2023, during an interview with Emily Maitlis for The News Agents podcast, while he was attending the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos as Leader of the Opposition. In a quick-fire question segment, Maitlis asked: "You have to choose now between Davos or Westminster." Starmer replied: "Davos."

Because Westminster is a completely shit punch and judy hellhole where nothing can get done, the media plays a massive role in that. Davos is a complete waste of money, but he only has to spend a couple of days there talking to self-important twats about nothing.

Oh good so Starmer and Labour had the incredibly easy task of recruiting thousands of dentists and NHS staff (remember not to recruit any from abroad unless you want to upset half the population), dredging all the canals and rivers, rebuilding the entire rail network and fixing all the roads in 18 months, that seems fair. All while not breaking any of the thousands of priorities that other people have.

Net Zero specifically - I would love to see a majority nationalised clean energy industry, where Britain invests and profits from what is bound to be the future of energy production. We pissed away the north sea and through the ideology of 'the government shouldn't own and run things' we are pissing away our clean energy future. GB energy does something, but it doesn't do enough - which is pretty much my only issue with this government as a collective, too timid.

[JamesWales]

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The world needs to get greener and it needn't be bad for us as an economy whilst we do it, but the green movement generally is a huge burden to growth. The amount of regulations is absurd and many countries just ignore. I'm also tired of being told off by people who are forever jetting off around the world and showing us their AI characitures on Instagram whilst telling us to vote Green.

The best example yet is the absurdity of our steelmaking policies when we are cutting ourselves off at the knees, only to still end up buying the steel in future, but made in China, in dirtier factories and then shipping it here.

It's important we get greener and progress has been spectacular, esp with offshore wind and recycling rates etc, but people are over- zealous about it and if you don't do it whilst ensuring we remain prosperous then you risk undoing it all in future anyway.

[Jordi Culé]

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Streeting is shocking please no

More of a cuunt than Starmer.

Isn't Wes a bumchum of Mandelson?

I look at Tweeting and think he's exactly what is wrong with today's politics, he's also an annoying twerp.

[Dorcus]

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More of a cuunt than Starmer.

Isn't Wes a bumchum of Mandelson?

I look at Tweeting and think he's exactly what is wrong with today's politics, he's also an annoying twerp.

100% One of the key counts who stabbed Corbyn in the back too. Yesterday's politician

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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More of a cuunt than Starmer.

Isn't Wes a bumchum of Mandelson?

I look at Tweeting and think he's exactly what is wrong with today's politics, he's also an annoying twerp.

Labour need to find a sort of Alan Johnson left of centre to lead

Streeting is oily , rayner is gobby , milliband is weaker than starmer

[Pearcey3]

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100% One of the key counts who stabbed Corbyn in the back too. Yesterday's politician

He's appalling. If Labour had any sense they would be begging Burnham to head back to Westminster. He would have won Gorton and Denton and is the only politician they have who would limit the damage at the next GE. The longer Starmer lingers like a bad smell the more they will be damaged.

[Dorcus]

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He's appalling. If Labour had any sense they would be begging Burnham to head back to Westminster. He would have won Gorton and Denton and is the only politician they have who would limit the damage at the next GE. The longer Starmer lingers like a bad smell the more they will be damaged.

Agree

[the other bob wilson]

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Epstein, Maxwell and "a future PM" in a threesome - can it be true? Starmer must be hoping it is.

[Jordi Culé]

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Epstein, Maxwell and "a future PM" in a threesome - can it be true? Starmer must be hoping it is.

I see George Galloway weighed into this with another beauty in Shaun Attwood on his Facebook page.

I can see why (if true) it's been buried in the files as the thought of any one of the previous PMs is enough to put you off your cornflakes.

My money is Cameron, he's got form for fuucking pigs.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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I see George Galloway weighed into this with another beauty in Shaun Attwood on his Facebook page.

I can see why (if true) it's been buried in the files as the thought of any one of the previous PMs is enough to put you off your cornflakes.

My money is Cameron, he's got form for fuucking pigs.

And there was me thinking the worst thing Theresa May ever did was to run through a cornfield!

[Dorcus]

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I see George Galloway weighed into this with another beauty in Shaun Attwood on his Facebook page.

I can see why (if true) it's been buried in the files as the thought of any one of the previous PMs is enough to put you off your cornflakes.

My money is Cameron, he's got form for fuucking pigs.

Cameron's mate methinks.

[Jordi Culé]

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Cameron's mate methinks.

I honestly thought the only 'mate' Cameron has ever had was George Osborne who has never been PM.

That said, I'm surprised the bugle sniffing, aficionado on prostitutes that Osborne is isn't in the Epstein files somewhere.

Fingers crossed it's Boris.

[Dorcus]

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I honestly thought the only 'mate' Cameron has ever had was George Osborne who has never been PM.

That said, I'm surprised the bugle sniffing, aficionado on prostitutes that Osborne is isn't in the Epstein files somewhere.

Fingers crossed it's Boris.

Odds on! When I suggested mates I meant Bullingdon mates! Strange bedfellows (excuse the pun)!