Another random attack on British jews

[JamesWales]

Re: Another random attack on British jews

Wara teg James, talk about missing the point on an observation, which I’ll add I’ve explained for you as that nuance radar you possess has glitched again.

What you’re saying is now, wider context cannot be considered unless you deem it worthy enough?

Fuucking brilliant, good to see you’re still on that pedestal you’ve placed yourself on and the keeper of all sense on this board.

Never change James, it really is funny as fuuck.

Sorry you aren't making much sense. What are you going on about?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Another random attack on British jews

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2968741.html

LetÂ’s derail the thread further.

The attacks on innocent jewish people here is shocking

But there are reasons its got worse recently and Israels carpet bombing and scorched earth policy is right up there

This is not just an elephant in the room , its just about the whole house !

If hundreds of moderate British Jews are on palestine marches then if its ok for them to call for peace it should be good enough for all of us

Farage was poking his nose in as usual and as neither the prime minister or leader of the opposition he was out of order given his previous behaviour

[Heathblue]

Re: Another random attack on British jews

The attacks on innocent jewish people here is shocking

But there are reasons its got worse recently and Israels carpet bombing and scorched earth policy is right up there

This is not just an elephant in the room , its just about the whole house !

If hundreds of moderate British Jews are on palestine marches then if its ok for them to call for peace it should be good enough for all of us

Farage was poking his nose in as usual and as neither the prime minister or leader of the opposition he was out of order given his previous behaviour

I see your boy is considering a ban on pro Palestinian marches

[Dorcus]

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I see your boy is considering a ban on pro Palestinian marches

He's a Zionist shill

[jon1959]

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https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/golders-green-antisemitism-is-real-and-so-is-its-weaponisation/?utm_source=mailpoet&utm_medium=email&utm_source_platform=mailpoet&utm_campaign=today-on-the-jvl-blog-newsletter-total-articles-for-you_1

[the other bob wilson]

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No, Jordi and Sludge trying to turn the stabbing of two Jewish guys into another anti Farage/Reform thing was the attempt to derail. Predictable of course.

Nevertheless, it took you over forty eight hours after beginning this thread to acknowledge an elephant in the room (your words) that others had referred to in this thread well before you got around to mentioning it.

Instead, you opted to defend an individual who, arguably, was the biggest single cause in the increase in hate crime against immigrants following the 2016 Brexit vote in which Farage spent so much time putting immigration front and centre among the reasons you should vote Leave. Let’s not forget as well that, although I’m fairly sure I didn’t use the term myself, many referred to what happened after the Southport killings in 2024 as the Farage riots. There’s also what Jordi mentioned about Farage’s comments to Jews who were at the same public school as him that he made as a youth, not a child. Farage’s responses to what he is alleged to have said as a sixth former have tended to go all around the houses, but, as I understand it, his current position is not to d3ny them - something which is coming across as a tacit admission that he did say what he has been axcused of saying by as many as twenty odd ex pupils of his former school I believe.

So, there are reasons why Farage’s responses about the increased levels of anti Semitic crime cannot just be put on a par with what other politicians are saying about it because Farage has “form” on matters like this in a way that the others do not - even if too many of them also fail to acknowledge your elephant in the room.

[the other bob wilson]

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https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1

Banning pro Palestine marches would be such a Starmer thing to do and, as is said in the video, would probably lead to an increase in anti Jewish crime.

[JamesWales]

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Nevertheless, it took you over forty eight hours after beginning this thread to acknowledge an elephant in the room (your words) that others had referred to in this thread well before you got around to mentioning it.

Instead, you opted to defend an individual who, arguably, was the biggest single cause in the increase in hate crime against immigrants following the 2016 Brexit vote in which Farage spent so much time putting immigration front and centre among the reasons you should vote Leave. Let’s not forget as well that, although I’m fairly sure I didn’t use the term myself, many referred to what happened after the Southport killings in 2024 as the Farage riots. There’s also what Jordi mentioned about Farage’s comments to Jews who were at the same public school as him that he made as a youth, not a child. Farage’s responses to what he is alleged to have said as a sixth former have tended to go all around the houses, but, as I understand it, his current position is not to d3ny them - something which is coming across as a tacit admission that he did say what he has been axcused of saying by as many as twenty odd ex pupils of his former school I believe.

So, there are reasons why Farage’s responses about the increased levels of anti Semitic crime cannot just be put on a par with what other politicians are saying about it because Farage has “form” on matters like this in a way that the others do not - even if too many of them also fail to acknowledge your elephant in the room.

What an absolutely ridiculous post. Why not try listening to people who are in fear of being attacked for a chance instead of shape shifting the world to suit how you want it.

We all know whats happening in Gaza is part of the rise in antisemitic attacks (but doesn't justify them) but that doesn't mean when two people are stabbed it's appropriate to instantly turn your anger to a British politician standing with the attacked community before any other comments. It was gross and again, if someone had done that about Corbyn (for example) you absolutely would understand how inappropriate it was so don't pretend you don't get it. You do

[Hilts]

Re: Another random attack on British jews

Nevertheless, it took you over forty eight hours after beginning this thread to acknowledge an elephant in the room (your words) that others had referred to in this thread well before you got around to mentioning it.

Instead, you opted to defend an individual who, arguably, was the biggest single cause in the increase in hate crime against immigrants following the 2016 Brexit vote in which Farage spent so much time putting immigration front and centre among the reasons you should vote Leave. Let’s not forget as well that, although I’m fairly sure I didn’t use the term myself, many referred to what happened after the Southport killings in 2024 as the Farage riots. There’s also what Jordi mentioned about Farage’s comments to Jews who were at the same public school as him that he made as a youth, not a child. Farage’s responses to what he is alleged to have said as a sixth former have tended to go all around the houses, but, as I understand it, his current position is not to d3ny them - something which is coming across as a tacit admission that he did say what he has been axcused of saying by as many as twenty odd ex pupils of his former school I believe.

So, there are reasons why Farage’s responses about the increased levels of anti Semitic crime cannot just be put on a par with what other politicians are saying about it because Farage has “form” on matters like this in a way that the others do not - even if too many of them also fail to acknowledge your elephant in the room.

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[the other bob wilson]

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What an absolutely ridiculous post. Why not try listening to people who are in fear of being attacked for a chance instead of shape shifting the world to suit how you want it.

We all know whats happening in Gaza is part of the rise in antisemitic attacks (but doesn't justify them) but that doesn't mean when two people are stabbed it's appropriate to instantly turn your anger to a British politician standing with the attacked community before any other comments. It was gross and again, if someone had done that about Corbyn (for example) you absolutely would understand how inappropriate it was so don't pretend you don't get it. You do

You’re just making a fool of yourself, again.

You admit yourself that Israel’s actions over Gaza are the elephant in the room so what’s ridiculous, according to you, about what I say about that?

You just don’t get that Farage has made himself different to other mainstream politicians (which is what he is now trying to become}, because of his dubious past when it comes to what I’ll call people of a different heritage.

You, once again, go off on one despite absolutely no one in this thread saying the stabbings were justified in any way. No, what’s getting you so worked up is that people point out that Farage is not best qualified to weigh in on the subject of anti Semitism because of the clearly antisemitic things he’s been accused of saying in his past. Similarly, we have things like that borderline racist poster from the Brexit campaign he was happy enough to have as a backdrop for pictures of him and then, of course, we have his part in the so called Farage riots that included people trying to set fire to hotels in which immigrants were housed.

If you can’t see why there are those who are uneasy about Farage getting involved in such a sensitive subject as anti Jewish violence, then you’re more dense than I think you are.

[JamesWales]

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You’re just making a fool of yourself, again.

You admit yourself that Israel’s actions over Gaza are the elephant in the room so what’s ridiculous, according to you, about what I say about that?

You just don’t get that Farage has made himself different to other mainstream politicians (which is what he is now trying to become}, because of his dubious past when it comes to what I’ll call people of a different heritage.

You, once again, go off on one despite absolutely no one in this thread saying the stabbings were justified in any way. No, what’s getting you so worked up is that people point out that Farage is not best qualified to weigh in on the subject of anti Semitism because of the clearly antisemitic things he’s been accused of saying in his past. Similarly, we have things like that borderline racist poster from the Brexit campaign he was happy enough to have as a backdrop for pictures of him and then, of course, we have his part in the so called Farage riots that included people trying to set fire to hotels in which immigrants were housed.

If you can’t see why there are those who are uneasy about Farage getting involved in such a sensitive subject as anti Jewish violence, then you’re more dense than I think you are.

You just don't understand the issue being raised at all, and thats kinda the point. No one serious is mentioning Farage in relation to this dreadful attack. That some chose to do so because they "turned on their TV and he was speaking" or because he was speaking about the attack, clearly with the support of members of the Jewish comnunity stood right behind him and you think that he should be defined by allegations 40 years ago instead of showing support to a community now says it all. It matters because there hasn't been enough attention on the true dangers here, so distraction matters. Pointing elsewhere (incl Farage matters) when there is a clear and present danger facing people on our streets.

Im no huge fan of the Guardian or Sadiq Khan but I liked this article and if they can put an article out without using it as an opportunity to make party political points before an election then I'm sure people on here could too.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/may/03/jewish-community-london-safety-sadiq-khan

Anyway, some of you clearly don't see the issue, so nothing more to add from me, enjoy the bank holiday monday Bob 🙂

[Heathblue]

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You just don't understand the issue being raised at all, and thats kinda the point. No one serious is mentioning Farage in relation to this dreadful attack. That some chose to do so because they "turned on their TV and he was speaking" or because he was speaking about the attack, clearly with the support of members of the Jewish comnunity stood right behind him and you think that he should be defined by allegations 40 years ago instead of showing support to a community now says it all. It matters because there hasn't been enough attention on the true dangers here, so distraction matters. Pointing elsewhere (incl Farage matters) when there is a clear and present danger facing people on our streets.

Im no huge fan of the Guardian or Sadiq Khan but I liked this article and if they can put an article out without using it as an opportunity to make party political points before an election then I'm sure people on here could too.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/may/03/jewish-community-london-safety-sadiq-khan

Anyway, some of you clearly don't see the issue, so nothing more to add from me, enjoy the bank holiday monday Bob 🙂

You think the squad are going to leave it at that YOU must think how they do, repeat after me, you must think as they do, 200 lines for home work.

[JamesWales]

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You think the squad are going to leave it at that YOU must think how they do, repeat after me, you must think as they do, 200 lines for home work.

Ha, I will absolutely hold my hand up at being as stubborn as any of them on seeking the last word!

On this one I suspect that the central point at what was wrong about the post(s) is lost on them, as they no doubt think their point is lost on me (actually I do get their point, I just think it's one to express way down the list of observations), so I am happy to hand over the last word if there is any desire for it, but it seems pointless and it doesn't reflect well on any of us how divorced from the events this discussion had become tbh.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Ha, I will absolutely hold my hand up at being as stubborn as any of them on seeking the last word!

On this one I suspect that the central point at what was wrong about the post(s) is lost on them, as they no doubt think their point is lost on me (actually I do get their point, I just think it's one to express way down the list of observations), so I am happy to hand over the last word if there is any desire for it, but it seems pointless and it doesn't reflect well on any of us how divorced from the events this discussion had become tbh.

You have had a hammering on here and rightly so

Your only support a right wing potty conspiracy theorist

Says it all

Its laughable you describe Farages visit to golders green as " supporting the jewish community "

He couldnt give a toss about the jewish community , apart from the far right voting ones

And your ridiculous comments ignoring the effect of israels carpet bombing of kids doesnt represent the jewish community either

Some , the far right othodox factions may be completely oblvious to whats gone on and what its led to .....an increase in attacks on british jews ....but most of the moderate jewish community in the uk have had enough of zionist policy in their name

Loads of jewish people on pro palestine marches .....go and speak to them instead of wasting everyones time on here

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Another random attack on British jews

Ha, I will absolutely hold my hand up at being as stubborn as any of them on seeking the last word!

On this one I suspect that the central point at what was wrong about the post(s) is lost on them, as they no doubt think their point is lost on me (actually I do get their point, I just think it's one to express way down the list of observations), so I am happy to hand over the last word if there is any desire for it, but it seems pointless and it doesn't reflect well on any of us how divorced from the events this discussion had become tbh.

Thanks James for putting us all right in what we should be discussing and thinking on a public forum.

Forever in your debt.