Another Brexit Bonus

[life on mars]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

A Dover sole will always be a Dover sole mon ami.

Or it can claim political asylum if in French waters if they are that welcoming .

[Dorcus]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Or it can claim political asylum if in French waters if they are that welcoming .

I take your point. I can see a lot of people lining up to claim political asylum in France to get away from Boris and his cronies. Cod willing

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

The right wing tabloids are eventually realising what a shit show Brexit is. Campaigned for and supported it and now shedding crocodile tears. Hate to say we told you so!!!

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Forgive the rather thunderous headline but within this article it says that in Brixham at least, they have just reported their best ever year for fish sales, up over 10% since pre-brexit/covid figures.

Perhaps British fisheries haven't collapsed?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10380581/ROBERT-HARDMAN-Brexit-success-story-make-Remoaners-choke-sea-bass.html

[Swiss Peter]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Forgive the rather thunderous headline but within this article it says that in Brixham at least, they have just reported their best ever year for fish sales, up over 10% since pre-brexit/covid figures.

Perhaps British fisheries haven't collapsed?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...-sea-bass.html

"Make Remoaners choke on their sea bass".

James "balance/facts/I hate bias" Wales.

[MOZZER2]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Brexit win for city of London

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/1546321/Brexit-news-City-of-London-latest-figures-uk-market-update

thats a surprise !

[Swiss Peter]

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Brexit win for city of London

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/1546321/Brexit-news-City-of-London-latest-figures-uk-market-update

thats a surprise !

...in the interest of balance here's another, slightly more insightful, perspective

https://www.ft.com/content/f83ddf05-...d-e82a54c71afa

The City of London, like it or not, is hugely important to the UK economy. The impact of Brexit was a big worry. So far, it seems the City hasn't been hit as badly as some predicted - thankfully.

So far.

[MOZZER2]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

...in the interest of balance here's another, slightly more insightful, perspective

https://www.ft.com/content/f83ddf05-...d-e82a54c71afa

The City of London, like it or not, is hugely important to the UK economy. The impact of Brexit was a big worry. So far, it seems the City hasn't been hit as badly as some predicted - thankfully.

So far.

i thought the buffoon was supposed to be leveling up across the country not just London !

wonder how much carlisle will get

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

"Make Remoaners choke on their sea bass".

James "balance/facts/I hate bias" Wales.

Come now Peter, I didn't make the headline and went as far as acknowledging and apologising for it.

What do you think of the figures within it?

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Come now Peter, I didn't make the headline and went as far as acknowledging and apologising for it.

What do you think of the figures within it?

I guess the question is whether you can extrapolate what has happened in one port out to the rest of the UK fishing industry. For balance here are articles giving perspective from Cornwall, the East Coast of England (apologies for the headline)and Scotland. What do you think of the detail within it?

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/fish/how-brexit-has-affected-the-scottish-seafood-industry-and-whats-yet-to-come/663179.article

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1545246/brexit-news-fishing-latest-paul-lines-east-coast-brixham-fish-market-update

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/food-and-drink/year-since-brexit-fishermen-cornwall-say-they-were-sold-a-dream-1391517

To be fair all this ping pong is over an extremely emotional and locally important sector but one that is relatively unimportant to the UK's GDP. The Office of Budgetary Responsibilities forecast (dirty word I know) of a 4% hit to GDP as a consequence of the friction in the great UK/EU "free trade" deal and the absence of the services sector from it still holds true for them after their analysis of the first year of "freedom". If it's not fishing then the pain is going to be felt somewhere else based on the Government's own body.

[JamesWales]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

I guess the question is whether you can extrapolate what has happened in one port out to the rest of the UK fishing industry. For balance here are articles giving perspective from Cornwall, the East Coast of England (apologies for the headline)and Scotland. What do you think of the detail within it?

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/fish/how-brexit-has-affected-the-scottish-seafood-industry-and-whats-yet-to-come/663179.article

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1545246/brexit-news-fishing-latest-paul-lines-east-coast-brixham-fish-market-update

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/food-and-drink/year-since-brexit-fishermen-cornwall-say-they-were-sold-a-dream-1391517

To be fair all this ping pong is over an extremely emotional and locally important sector but one that is relatively unimportant to the UK's GDP. The Office of Budgetary Responsibilities forecast (dirty word I know) of a 4% hit to GDP as a consequence of the friction in the great UK/EU "free trade" deal and the absence of the services sector from it still holds true for them after their analysis of the first year of "freedom". If it's not fishing then the pain is going to be felt somewhere else based on the Government's own body.

I think there's good and bad news and the reality will be neither sunlit uplands nor a 'catastrophe' or 'collapse'. And I'm fine with that. Let's wait and see.

It wasn't me that posted the collage of headlines claiming farming and fishing were collapsing. That clearly isn't happening, and my intention was to demonstrate that.

[Swiss Peter]

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Come now Peter, I didn't make the headline and went as far as acknowledging and apologising for it.

What do you think of the figures within it?

What did I think of the figures? I've read a number of articles relating to fisheries. Some suggest Brexit has had a negative impact - others are more positive. I don't knows what the real picture is. I'm not convinced anyone does yet. My view (fwiw) is still that damage to the economy may be mixed across sectors, but that Brexit will end up having a very large negative economic impact overall. To think otherwise (in my mind) defies logic. Maybe markets will adjust and I'll be proved wrong though.

I think though that if I was billing myself on here as someone who is highly evidence-led and balanced in my approach I would avoid posting articles with absurd headlines which I immediately have to apologise for. I would worry that doing so would damage my credibility.

[life on mars]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Post Brexit salaries have increased by 1.8%.

These are all positive indicators that growth and opportunities remain strong and are cause for optimism.

[Dorcus]

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Post Brexit salaries have increased by 1.8%.

These are all positive indicators that growth and opportunities remain strong and are cause for optimism.

Inflation has risen by more.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Inflation has risen by more.

Stop hating Britain

[Dorcus]

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Stop hating Britain

Nothing to do with hate, pure facts.