Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Michael Morris]

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Seems Drakeford set to bring forward opening for indoor pubs and dining.

Announcement due on Friday with May 17th likely date.

[the other bob wilson]

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Good news from an ONS and Oxford University survey, which has a very large sample but has not been peer reviewed yet, about the effectiveness of a single vaccine jab in the UK;-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56844220

[lisvaneblue]

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Data for Wales shows that there were 461 cases of Covid reported in the last 7 days and 127 cases admitted to hospital during the same period. Whilst the data is not directly comparable there does appear to be a high percentage of those with Covid ending up in hospital.

When compared to UK data 10.6% of all Covid admissions to hospital in the last 7 days were from Wales. Considering we make up about 5% of the UK population the figure is high.

I wonder why?

[xsnaggle]

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Data for Wales shows that there were 461 cases of Covid reported in the last 7 days and 127 cases admitted to hospital during the same period. Whilst the data is not directly comparable there does appear to be a high percentage of those with Covid ending up in hospital.

When compared to UK data 10.6% of all Covid admissions to hospital in the last 7 days were from Wales. Considering we make up about 5% of the UK population the figure is high.

I wonder why?

It's a cunning Drakeford plan, sending them to hospital even if they don't really need to go so he can use the figures as an excuse for not opening the pubs.

[surge]

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TL;DR: because the UK came into the pandemic with families in a more vulnerable position, it has fared worse since the onset of crisis.

those vulnerable prior to the pandemic have suffered the most...

...all this means the lasting impact of the pandemic is going to be higher inequality.

Policy makers will need to act ahead of the next crisis.

https://twitter.com/JamesSmithRF/sta...41113229942788

Interesting thread.

[xsnaggle]

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Data for Wales shows that there were 461 cases of Covid reported in the last 7 days and 127 cases admitted to hospital during the same period. Whilst the data is not directly comparable there does appear to be a high percentage of those with Covid ending up in hospital.

When compared to UK data 10.6% of all Covid admissions to hospital in the last 7 days were from Wales. Considering we make up about 5% of the UK population the figure is high.

I wonder why?

It doesn't necesarily mean that all the people admitted to hospital in the period were from the 461 cases diagnose. A lot of them may have been diagnosed previously and just deteriorated to the point where they need hospital attention. and of course the fact that they are hospitalised does not mean they are all on ventilators or taking up critical care beds. Perhaps bringing them in earlier is preventing the need for that.

[Rjk]

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Data for Wales shows that there were 461 cases of Covid reported in the last 7 days and 127 cases admitted to hospital during the same period. Whilst the data is not directly comparable there does appear to be a high percentage of those with Covid ending up in hospital.

When compared to UK data 10.6% of all Covid admissions to hospital in the last 7 days were from Wales. Considering we make up about 5% of the UK population the figure is high.

I wonder why?

I think it would be difficult to draw too many conclusions from that, as the numbers are getting smaller now you're likely to see more fluctuations in wales' % compared to the rest of the UK. Wales does have a slightly older, poorer population, with more underlying health problems, but it's more likely just standard variance in the data. I don't think people in Wales are being hospitalised under different criteria than England or anything like that. # Looking at the total period is obviously more stable in terms of data - and it does appear that Wales has fared better than the UK overall in terms of the proportion of deaths due to Covid - in fact if Wales had performed in line with the UK average, there would likely be an additional 1000 people to have died by now.

[the other bob wilson]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/25/uk-governments-claim-it-is-too-busy-for-covid-inquiry-prompts-anger

[the other bob wilson]

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After nearly a month with no posts on this thread, it seems Governments in the UK are being urged by the scientific community to ease back on the lifting of restrictions in the light of the arrival of the Indian variant in this country - some of the figures appearing in this article are pretty frightening;-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/india-covid-variant-could-lead-to-third-wave-uk

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/15/johnson-must-think-again-on-plans-to-relax-covid-rules

[goats]

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After nearly a month with no posts on this thread, it seems Governments in the UK are being urged by the scientific community to ease back on the lifting of restrictions in the light of the arrival of the Indian variant in this country - some of the figures appearing in this article are pretty frightening;-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/india-covid-variant-could-lead-to-third-wave-uk

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ax-covid-rules

Government only have themselves to blame on this, no way should people have been able to fly here from India and not quarantine, absolute madness, again.....will they ever learn.

[goats]

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Also reckon if we had to go into another lockdown just as we finally coming out it would be the end of this Tory government, probably see the economy finally collapse aswell.

[goats]

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On a more positive note....

Health minister Edward Argar told the BBC on Saturday there had been a "minor increase" in hospital presentations in Bolton - one of the areas where the Indian variant is spreading - mainly among unvaccinated 35-65 year olds.

[xsnaggle]

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After nearly a month with no posts on this thread, it seems Governments in the UK are being urged by the scientific community to ease back on the lifting of restrictions in the light of the arrival of the Indian variant in this country - some of the figures appearing in this article are pretty frightening;-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/india-covid-variant-could-lead-to-third-wave-uk

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ax-covid-rules

Both those articles are basically saying the same thing.
Whilst the worst case scenario is of course possible, it is by no means certain that it will happen, and the spike in cases looks large now because case levels are so low, additionally the expectation is that if it does take hold it will push the kent variant out, which means indian variant cases will not be just additional but in place of a lot of the numbers we see now. Also the situation we are in now is vastly different to the infection rate that caused the last wave. There is, so far, no reason to believe that vaccination will not prevent death and/or serious illness, and that is the main reasons for lockdown, to prevent the NHS from being over whelmed.

The articles seek to put the worst possible spin on the situation. Why do I say that? Because of the numerous use of words like 'if' 'could' 'may' 'might' 'possible' and others like them. But then that is journalism, a bad story is always better than a good one.

[goats]

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Both those articles are basically saying the same thing.
Whilst the worst case scenario is of course possible, it is by no means certain that it will happen, and the spike in cases looks large now because case levels are so low, additionally the expectation is that if it does take hold it will push the kent variant out, which means indian variant cases will not be just additional but in place of a lot of the numbers we see now. Also the situation we are in now is vastly different to the infection rate that caused the last wave. There is, so far, no reason to believe that vaccination will not prevent death and/or serious illness, and that is the main reasons for lockdown, to prevent the NHS from being over whelmed.

The articles seek to put the worst possible spin on the situation. Why do I say that? Because of the numerous use of words like 'if' 'could' 'may' 'might' 'possible' and others like them. But then that is journalism, a bad story is always better than a good one.

It’s a lefty rag too so likes to cause panic. Looking a bit more deeply into it, only people who haven’t bothered to get vaccinated are getting ill

[the other bob wilson]

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I see the usual suspects are refusing to accept something because, despite the quotes in the articles, they appear in the wrong paper, is this source okay for you?

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-experts-warn-against-mondays-lockdown-easing-as-pm-faces-growing-criticism-over-delaying-india-travel-ban-12307691